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Vegas Is Becoming Alex Pietrangelo’s Team

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Let’s be honest, we all thought the Golden Knights would be a lot worse off than they are today. Thanksgiving has passed and we can all let out a collective sigh knowing that if the season ended today Vegas would be in the playoffs.

The injury bug hit the Golden Knights hard but through coaching, leadership, and responsibility, the Golden Knights are currently in third place in the division.

One player that was an enormous reason why the Golden Knights kept their heads above water is defenseman Alex Pietrangelo. Since Game 52 of last season, Pietrangelo has emerged as Vegas’ most important player. Sure, some deep stats will disagree but frankly, this is a case of mistaken identity. You want a stat? The Golden Knights are 7-2 when Pietrangelo registers a point. A point! Not a goal, but just one point from #7 usually propels the Golden Knights to a victory. That’s just his offensive contributions.

Clearly, coach Pete DeBoer isn’t concerned with what the data says about his most essential player. If the 31-year-old is such a deterrent than why would he be one of the most utilized defenseman in hockey? Pietrangelo is a bonafide workhorse and a fantastic facilitator for DeBoer.

Average Time On Ice: 25:16

  • 1st on VGK, 9th in NHL

Even Strengthened Minutes Per Game: 20:03

  • 2nd on VGK (1st – Theodore 20:17)

PP Minutes Per Game: 2:20

  • 2nd on VGK (1st – Stone 3:05)

Shorthanded Minutes Per Game: 2:50

  • 2nd ok VGK (1st – McNabb 2:57)

Offensive or defensive draw, up a goal or down a goal, up a man or down a man, it doesn’t matter, DeBoer is calling on #7.

Endurance and ice time isn’t the only indication of Pietrangelo’s nightly impact. This season there have been 124 goals scored in 20 Golden Knights games, Pietrangelo has been on the ice for almost half of them. What’s interesting is how the numbers break down. He’s Even-Steven.

On Ice For Goals Scored: 29

  • On Ice EV Goals For: 23
    2nd on VGK, 11th in NHL (1st – Stephenson 24)
  • On Ice PP Goals For: 5
    1st on VGK
  • On Ice SH Goals For: 1
    2nd on VGK

On Ice For Goals Against: 29

  • On Ice EV Goals Against: 23
    1st on VGK, 11th in NHL
  • On Ice PP Goals Against: 5
    2nd on VGK (1st – McNabb 8)
  • On Ice SH Goals Against: 1
    Tied – 1st on VGK

Another element to the alternate captain’s game is his durability, which has been on display since last season. Pietrangelo hasn’t missed a game since 3/31/21 and has averaged nearly 30 shifts per night, including the playoffs. The defenseman averaged .68 points per game finishing behind William Karlsson for most playoff points too.

Sure, I expect some backlash because most will argue Mark Stone is Vegas’ most important player and either way, we’re probably splitting hairs. However, Stone’s lack of scoring in the playoffs was a major problem in the Golden Knights last two postseason exits. The captain is vital to the operation but he isn’t paid $9.5M per year only to create turnovers, disrupt, and start an offensive break. Of course, that’s what a Selke candidate is supposed to do, but a highly paid captain like Stone cannot come up pointless in the semifinals. As a defenseman, Pietrangelo plays his position at an All-Star level and creates offense in the biggest moments.

For those reasons, #7 has become #1 in Vegas.

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75 Comments

  1. Petro certainly has won me over. At 31 he still has a lot of ice time in him.

    Before game 52 last year?
    Awful

  2. Galdom

    Petro is a boss!

  3. Tim

    We are so lucky to have as many bonafide stars as we have. Starting with Fleury Hall of Fame and three other potential Hall of Fame candidates in Stone, Petro, and Eichel. you might even add Martinez to that group with two Stanley Cups in his pocket. Not a lot of teams have had this kind of star power. Win or lose Vegas has definitely left it’s mark on the hockey world playing in only fifth year. I think on this Thanksgiving weekend we give thanks to management, coaches, and players for bringing us such wealth in such a short time.

    • THE hockey GOD

      @ tim you realize Fleury is gone and his 7 million cap space is now being used in more productive manner ?

      I used to like Fleury but I soured on him after his whole existence in VEGAS is examined in full detail, let’s start with:
      completely outplayed in finals in year one
      (but I still stood by him)

      blew a massive lead in the SAn Jose series (but I still stood by him)

      lost his job to lehner and losing game one in dallas series (but I still
      stood by him, but started to waiver when he put out his back stabbing
      cartoon exposing him for not being a “team players”)

      then next year it all fell apart, the last straw was when he completely blew
      Vegas attempts to trade him thereby allowing VEGAS to get nothing for him in return because he was a selfish POS, and notwithstanding his flub in semi finals. The game was won by Vegas, cost them series momentum, they were never ever able to recover from it.

      And hence in summary, we know why the PENS fans were happy to be rid of him.

      • Your posts about fleury are as old as Richard’s post about Lenher.

        • THE hockey GOD

          @Blitz, yes they are, you better believe it !!

          ( I would hardly call Fleury’s play during his stay in Vegas “hall of famish” more like hall of “shamish’. He so much disappointed me)

          gave a nice holiday week end, Blitz.

          • Blitz

            The after Thanksgiving socializing last night got way out of hand and I am vegged out today running at 50% function. Tomorrow is the civil war (OR vs OR ST) followed by VGK game. Needless to say I will be well rested by Sunday.

            Have a good long weekend as well.

          • Daryl

            If it wasn’t for some of those huge saves by MAF, VGK never would have made it as far as they did in any of those seasons

          • Time to move on. The MAF bashing is old news, but GOD loves to continue to beat his drum about it.

            The bottom line is that MAF is going to be in the Hall of Fame, period and that is the end of the story.

            Robin Lehner is not.

            Lastly, no one can ever take away that first magical season from the fans who love the team of Misfits led by #29 Marc Andre’ Fleury. That history is written and MAF’s eventually being inducted in the HOF as one of the best goalies of all time is assured.

            That should trigger GOD. Hope he doesn’t hit us with 40 days and nights of rain or a flood. Well, probably a flood – of expletive ridden posts about the sword blah blah blah…..

      • Tim

        THG, My comment on Fleury was we were lucky to have him and he’s a first ballot Hall of Fame and for a short time he was here he was one of us. Don’t read anything into it whether good bad or indifferent if you like him or not or soured on him that’s your opinion. The fact is he is a Vegas Golden Misfit forever and the only team in any sport in the History of sports to make the finals in there first year and he was a huge part of that. Please don’t tell me about St.Louis in there first year making it in a shit division of all the new teams where one team had to go compared to us playing all teams in both western divisions.

        • THE hockey GOD

          @ Tim I will never ever go down the St . Louis path, you can count on that and take it to the bank !

          PS don’t tell Ulf, and Rolf, from Dusseldorf.

      • Eato

        Dude shut the FUCK up, you have got the dumbest fucking views every time I happen across a comment section. The world will truly be better off without you in it. Take a fucking hint!

      • Daryl

        Still stuck up on MAF huh? You talk all this crap about other posters who dont like RL or Krebs or other players, but you are just as bad if not worse when it comes to MAF. Just pathetic!!!

        • THE hockey GOD

          apples and oranges , as usual, with nearly all your posts.

          • Daryl

            Of course it’s apples to oranges, because it was my comment. If it was your comment it would be apples to apples… It’s always the same with you

    • Rob S.

      Well said, Tim!

  4. Galdom

    Playoff Cap Compliant Lineup if team is fully healthy

    80.6 million

    Pacioretty – Eichel – Stone
    Marchessault – Karlsson – Smith
    Roy – Stephenson – Patrick
    Carrier – Leschyshyn – Kolesar

    Hague – Pietrangelo
    Martinez – Theodore
    McNabb – Whitecloud

    Lehner
    Brossoit

    Enough room for Brett Howden as the 13th forward if you don’t want to expose him to waivers. Patrick will probably be hurt. He always is.

    Waiting in the wings.

    Jonas Rondjberg
    Adam Brooks
    Ben Hutton
    Dylan Coughlan
    Paul Cotter

    • Pistol Pete

      Looks good, much as how I would project it.

    • THE hockey GOD

      you left out boris, janmark and someone else, jones? They will probably keep janmark and Boris on roster and do the same thing , play short like they did last year, and continue to “use the ir” . Which everyone seems to forget is an option.

    • Richie-Rich

      Do you actually think they are going to scratch Dadanov for the playoffs?

      My math has your line up at $80,595,000.

      I would replace both Carrier and Kolesar with Cotter & Rondjberg & try to get Cotter instead of Patrick. Janmark is $2,000,000 but Dadanov brings a lot more offense to the table. One possible way to get Dadanov into the lineup instead of Janmark would be to bring up Thompson and have a Brossoit/Thompson tandem for the playoffs.

      • THE hockey GOD

        i don’t see any team, let alone Vegas, going with a bunch of rookies (Cotter, Rondjberg, ThomPson) during the playoffs that is recipe for disaster barring any injuries) .

        I would keep janmark, Boris, and Lehner on playoff roster.

      • Galdom

        Dadonov and Janmark are left out because I would trade them. I should have mentioned it in the post. They are the casualties.

        It would be extraordinarily difficult to trade Dadonov and would probably cost the team a high draft pick but this is the lineup that I think is optimal. Riley Smith is a much better player than Evgenii Dadonov

    • John W

      Proposing an alternate lines here – we have to at least consider NOT breaking up Stone/Steph/Patch. This has been consistently one of the top NHL lines in expected goals, along with being defensively responsible. I would suggest going with a “1a/1b” balanced approach, with3rd line being another very strong defensive line.

      I am deleting McNabb, Carrier, Patrick and Janmark, to help fit Eichel under the cap.

      Stone – Stephenson – Patch
      Marchy – Eichel – Dadanov
      Smith – Karlsson – Roy
      Kolesar – Lesch – Howden (or Ronjdberg)

      Petro – Hague
      Martinez – Theodore
      Whitecloud – Hutton

      (Feel free to mix and match defensive pairs – but this is a strong 6, and I think Hutton has totally outplayed Coughlin.)

      This config gives us 3 REAL strong lines, all very dangerous, and would create match up problems for opposing teams.

      Thoughts?

      • Richie-Rich

        You are still over the cap by $1.2 million.

        • AP

          Not if someone gets a hang nail or becomes allergic to their gear for 2-3 weeks while Eichel gets a couple games at the end of the season… 😉

      • Tim

        John, actually makes a lot of sense. Hard for me to put Kolesar on any line he just has no offensive touch. Nolan Patrick isn’t going anywhere that’s Kelly’s pet project and he’ll be around for a while.

        • Galdom

          I don’t think that Nolan Patrick is anybody’s pet project. We moved a guy in Cody Glass who was just not working out here for Nolan Patrick who wasn’t working out in Philadelphia. Fresh starts for both players. A lot of general managers will trade a player with which they have some past history and familiarity with. But if Patrick doesn’t perform he’s not gonna be kept on as some kind of pet project or favor. If anything, the VGK probably has the least amount of loyalty. If you don’t perform your show on the door. That’s the history here so I don’t know where you get your pet project theory. They made a huge overpay for Tomas Tatar who is obviously a guy they must have really liked. But he was garbage and they didn’t keep him around to try to justify overpaying for him. They are more than happy to swallow their pride for the betterment of the roster.

          In 2018, they traded a 1st round, 2nd round pick and 3rd round pick for Tomas Tatar.

          He was awful here and consistently benched in the playoffs and they were more than happy to trade him away. He was part of the Max Pacioretty trade but I feel like he was more of a throw him in the Nick Suzuki was the key to the deal. They even retained $500,000 of Tatar’s salary to make the deal.

          Tatar was a bit of a fiasco but I credit management on admitting an error and moving on from it.

      • Galdom

        Thoughts. Like Richie-Rich said you are over the cap. I think it’s difficult to have both Smith and Dadonov. I like your balanced line approach. You don’t save much money moving Patrick or Carrier. Moving Patrick is not like moving 1.2 million it’s only moving about 400,000 because someone will have to take his place at at least around 800,000.

        My thinking and again this is if everyone is healthy which may not be the case is that you are moving one of Smith or Dadonov plus one of Janmark or McNabb. I contemplated McNabb because we are so deep at defence but he bring some thing that I think we need in the playoffs. I’m not saying I would resign him because we can’t give him a raise and we need some cheaper cost effective roster turnover but I would like to see McNabb for another playoff run.

        Ultimately it would be awesome to do some sneaky Tampa cap circumvention and keep everybody. Maybe Dadonov gets a sore back in the last month of the season only to return in game one of the playoffs.

  5. Tim – your last statement concerning giving thanks speaks volumes to your integrity and understanding of what the world in general lacks. we all need to step back and come to the conclusion just how fortunate we all are to live in this once great country and collectively make up our mines it’s time to take it back. The knights have set a perfect example of that. It very well might be GOD’S purpose for their being.

    • Pistol Pete

      This is still a great country. Please don’t forget where we are and how much many of us have. There are problems of course, there always have been and always will be, including all the other developed countries. Something else—we always need work across the aisle to solve our problems—progressives and conservatives working together in shared interests. Hockey is but one small example of people varied beliefs coming together in a common interest.

      • Richie-Rich

        This country is so dysfunctional. The only thing keeping it from completely imploding is the genius of the Founding Fathers giving us a nearly unbreakable Constitution and Bill of Rights. But, little by little every single little cornerstone is being either ignored outright or being challenged in the courts.

        Once these pieces of paper fall it’s all over folks.

        So enjoy the greatest nation in history for as long as it lasts.

        • Thanks Richie – you apparently have more understanding of situations than many on this site. I guess it boils down to being a realist. Yes PP we are fortunate to live in this once great country but whether you see it or not it is deteriorating right before your eyes.

        • RR-

          “But, little by little every single little cornerstone is being either ignored outright or being challenged in the courts.”

          Please provide examples and I will consider it.

          I think what is sometimes lost by “contemporary thinkers” is that down through our history there have been challenges. There are always challenges–in business, politics and so on. Therefore some of what some find alarming today is actually history repeating itself in some sense. I would have to research it to provide examples but I know this is the case.

          One challenge that is new is climate change.

          The courts have always been contraversial but imo they continue to function and address new issues clarifying the law and creating precedents. One example is Trump’s attempt to use post-presidential executive privilege to protect what may be wrongdoings committed by him. Presidential executive privilege does not exist to protect potentially illegal acts by the president (note that I say “potentially” as Trump’s complicity in instigating Jan. 6 has not yet been proven) but yet presidential executive privilege has not really been addressed by the courts.

          Sorry folks to digress from hockey, but please let me say again if divergent interests can come together on hockey we can work across the aisle in other areas.

          • So yeah, I find the threat from climate change to be far more dangerous than for example right wing extremism or the progressive left moving our system towards communism. Just for the record, I do find right wing extremism alarming and look to our FBI to monitor it and protect us. On the other hand I do not see there being enough critical mass for the extreme left to move us into communism any time soon.

          • Daryl

            We will move more toward communism before climate control will become any sort of issue. And while the issues we are dealing with today are the same we dealt with in the past, they are bigger now. I would not be surprised to se another civil war in my lifetime. You talk about Trump, but Obama has done more to divide this Country than any other president before or after. We have more illegals in this country than ever before. Our court system including the Supreme Court are ruining our legal system.

            I’m not saying u country can’t rebound, but it is going downhill fast

          • PP – take the climate change debate to reddit, facebook or twitter. I am on reddit in the politics area but don’t post much there. I am also on Gab and GETTR, much better platforms for free speech.

            Every 10 years those terrorizing people over climate predict the end of the world as we know it and then it doesn’t happen. If they are correct then just enjoy the next 8 years of hockey because that is when we all die from floods, heat, etc.

            Enough said, Call Ed.

          • LOL – right wing extremism and violence.

            The right wing? I don’t think it was the right wing that burned down cities during those “mostly peaceful protests” last year. Left wing socialists and communists are historically the most violent. Yes, Hitler was left wing – a National Socialist dictator. Xi, Stalin, Kruschev, Castro, Maduro, Chavez…. shall I continue to the long list of left wing murderers?

  6. I think he’s amazing, a terrific player. He’s big, physical and at times his passing is awesome. He’s also a team guy, unselfish and does many things that don’t show up on the stat sheat. The Nashville announcers commented on how dangerous we can be when we get everyone back. It’s amazing to see how our depth has really saved the season. Our younger guys have absolutely stepped up and have made the case they belong and a couple of guys may stick. That said, other GM’s may make a deal to aquire them, we could load up on future draft picks. It’s a good spot to be in, I credit the 2 Mac’s for drafting good young players. I loved Krebs but these guys are amazing.

    • THE hockey GOD

      MARK D TAYLOR

      the Smashville announcers were one of the most gracious and generous set of opposite teams’ announcers that I have heard this whole year. They gave the whole organization from FO , to coaching staff, to players , a lot of kudos.

      But I still don’t like Terry Crisp, the old Flyer in between periods “commenter”. And their female in between the boxes “analyst” makes me wish Stormy was back.

  7. Pistol Pete

    Can anybody imagine having Eichel and Petro on the same shift? Believe me it will be good.

    Another thing, rest assured Jack will be spending a lot of time working with all the roster before he skates at City National for the first time (I project around the first of the year possibly a week sooner—-6 weeks after the Nov. 12 surgery he should be skating, no contact).

    • Richie-Rich

      Doctor Pistol Pete! I sure hope so.

      • R-R, all it takes is for each vertebrae to grow itself into the artificial disc. Bone growth–no big deal–takes about six weeks.

        • The bone isn’t really the problem, it’s the bundle of nerves that have to run through that bone. The discs in that area are a lot smaller than in the lumbar region as well. Hoping for the best, but I think slow & easy will be the recipe for Eichel. A conservative approach…

  8. THE hockey GOD

    Brett Howden C, Vegas Golden Knights
    Brett Howden has been cleared from COVID-19 protocol and he practiced on Friday.

    Howden was put into COVID protocol on Wednesday because he was a close contact. He should be available to play on Saturday against Edmonton

  9. Pistol Pete

    Rondbjerg, Cotter and Jones reassigned to the HSK, leaving Leschyshyn up.

    I like Leschyshyn but in my mind Rondbjerg seems a little more dynamic as borne out by the stats:

    Rondbjerg: 2 G/2 A/+3 (14 games)
    Leschyshyn: 1 G/3 A/0 (18 games)

    Apparently they apparently have deemed Leschyshyn a better defender although the +/- does not necessarily bear that out. I thought the Rondbjerg goal vs. the Preds was strong…tremendous acceleration, great shot. One sees that and one wants to think it can happen again and again.

  10. Pistol Pete

    Can’t proof read anymore lol. Senior moments?!

  11. Galdom

    Pacioretty-Stephenson-Stone
    Marchessault-Roy-Smith
    Carrier-Brooks-Dadonov
    Janmark-Howden-Kolesar

    Hague-Pietrangelo
    McNabb-Theodore
    Hutton-Whitecloud

    This could be tonights lineup. Unlike Leschyshyn, Howden and Brooks can’t be sent down to the minors without clearing waivers so I would assume they get a longer look so they can get a good look at them. When Karlsson is healthy I would think that Leschyshyn will return to the Silver Knights. Amadio is useless so they will expose him to waivers as soon as he healthy.

    It’s not out of the realm of possibility that Howden and Brooks are put on waivers at some point and they would be claimed which would not be devastating losses. I’m a little intrigued by Brooks and would like to see him get a longer look. You never know, Stephenson looked like a 4th line player just two years ago.

    Here is another angle to the Riley Smith / Evgeni Dadonov potential conundrum in the event salary is needed to be moved. I think we can all agree that Riley Smith is a far superior player. Also, with his contract expiring he is a true rental it would not be very difficult to move him and get a 2nd or 3rd round pick for him, maybe more if he continues to play at a 60 point pace.

    Evgeni Dadonov on the other hand has an extra year on his contract and for a 5 million dollar cap hit you are getting a guy that may only hit 15 goals this year now that he will be on the third line. He doesn’t do much else, does not kill penalties. How many teams will be lining up to get this guy? Also with the way Ottawa structured his contract he is owed 6.25 million per year in real dollars which lowers his value even more.

    Long story short and what I am slowly getting to is if they can’t find any takers for him they could actually put him on waivers. If a team out there has a serious injury on there team and is desperate they could claim him and then he is off our books. If he were to clear waivers meaning nobody wants him for free we may need to add a sweetener to trade him, perhaps cover some of his salary although I think that would be counter productive or maybe give up a draft pick to entice a team to take him. Also, if he were to clear waivers and they sent him to the minors this would not get much cap relief. The rule is league minimum (750,000) + 385,000, a $1,135,000 cap savings. This could all be a moot point. Maybe I am wrong and a team may be interested in him. Or, trading Dadonov is too tough so we ship out Riley Smith which would suck in my opinion.

    • Pistol Pete

      Pretty reasonable rundown Galdom. Not sure how potentially non-tradable Dadonov is. Bear in mind this is a player who scored 81 goals in three seasons with Florida. While he slipped to just 13 last season with OTT, he’s a goal scorer and will be more productive in a top six role which is why it’s not out the question why they might choose him to replace Smith on the Misfits line. Like you I prefer Smith. They’ll figure out the cap and who to keep and move.

      • Galdom

        I could be wrong about him being untradeable. I hope so and I agree they will figure it out.

    • I value Dadanov higher than Janmark, but Smith presents the most roster challenge in the off season (and at the trade deadline). Smith is a solid 2nd liner. I think Dadanov could be too. Janmark is definitely 3rd line.

      Eichel’s $10 million certainly makes it difficult to build a very deep team. Locking in 3 lines for 2 to 3 years should be the overall goal – with quality depth. It’s going to be difficult given the math. There are a lot of options, which is the good news. Picking the right one is the challenge.

  12. Daryl

    This is a perfect example of how stats can be manipulated. I went back and looked and I believe 2 of his points came on empty net goals. He also scored a point in the last minutes of a fake they were already up by 3. so yeah I guess it counts when you say VGK is 7-2 when he scores a point but three of those really don’t count.

    I’m not saying anything negative just pointing out how stats can be manipulated.

    As for the team record, they ae basically right where I and many others thought they would be, even worth all the injuries. Let’s not forget other teams also have injured players as well. If they were doing this good later on in the season with the same injuries, then I would have been very impressed.

  13. Daryl

    It’s funny, Theo has been shit on here by many posters bt if you compare stats, you wouldn’t see much difference between he and Petra.

    18g – 11pts – +2 – 8 pim
    20g – 12pts – 0 – 8 pim

  14. THE hockey GOD

    Daryl wrote

    We will move more toward communism before climate control will become any sort of issue. And while the issues we are dealing with today are the same we dealt with in the past, they are bigger now. I would not be surprised to se another civil war in my lifetime. You talk about Trump, but Obama has done more to divide this Country than any other president before or after. We have more illegals in this country than ever before. Our court system including the Supreme Court are ruining our legal system.

    I’m not saying u country can’t rebound, but it is going downhill fast
    November 27, 2021
    Richie-Rich Wrote

    PP – take the climate change debate to reddit, facebook or twitter. I am on reddit in the politics area but don’t post much there. I am also on Gab and GETTR, much better platforms for free speech.

    Every 10 years those terrorizing people over climate predict the end of the world as we know it and then it doesn’t happen. If they are correct then just enjoy the next 8 years of hockey because that is when we all die from floods, heat, etc.

    Enough said, Call Ed.
    November 27, 2021
    Richie-Rich then wrote

    LOL – right wing extremism and violence.

    The right wing? I don’t think it was the right wing that burned down cities during those “mostly peaceful protests” last year. Left wing socialists and communists are historically the most violent. Yes, Hitler was left wing – a National Socialist dictator. Xi, Stalin, Kruschev, Castro, Maduro, Chavez…. shall I continue to the long list of left wing murderers?
    November 27, 2021
    >>you left out the clowns from North Korea.

    wow, you all agreeing , unbelievable. Must be a slow day. Nation changed when that commie Obama was elected, then everyone had buyer’s remorse after 8 years of that commie clown born in Kenya (two a father who had multiple wives
    at same time) and then USA let Trump in. Then in 2020 the dems cheated like crazy using covid as excuse in ballot box for massive mail in ballots (I know my HOA got hundreds of ballots lying all over the mail room floor) . Nevada had so much cheating that the election chief of Clark County, Joe Gloria hid from process server for weeks because he broke so many rules (one of which was lower the sig verification without recalibrating the machines as required by law).

    Global warming/cooling/ climate change and now it’s called local temperature variations is a hoax and DEMS pushing this hoax in our faces every day. The earth has been warming for over 10,000 years, the sun/ solar winds/ and solar system position is galaxy are the main energy drivers on earth (and it if wasn’t for our magnetic field as well as atmosphere life would not exist on this planet). There is NOTHING man can do. The so called “experts” are all paid whores and government is their pimp. Not real “experts”–example Greta a know nothing, uneducated cartoon caricature from the left.

    No computer simulation models, chemical reaction kinetics, thermodynamics, mass or energy (heat) balances PREDICT anything the climate hoaxsters are presenting. NONE. I should know, I worked in the field for 15 years after I retired as goalie and went to college to get my degrees. I used to get into fights with the CARB (Ca air resource board) clowns all the time about their ’emission analysis”. The chief board member one day had enough and yelled “we don’t care if the equations are wrong, we are going to keep going forward and we will tax the very air you breath on daily basis”.
    and as you say.
    enuf said
    call
    ED , yeah you stole it from me, and I stole it from Ed

    • I’m on GETTR at @subvet1972 and GAB at what else? @Richie-Rich

      • THE hockey GOD

        i am not on anything, I don’t know how getter and gab work. I am too old school, like Doc. I am so old school I just got a smart phone for first time last week and that is because they are doing away with 3g. I turned off my main phone line because nobody called me any more and it was a waste of money. I shut off cable TV and got a free one time deal with all the channels including CANADA, LATINO, and 24.7 (which is great because I can watch reruns of gilligan islands, hogan’s heros, and green acres with out commercial interruption)

  15. Galdom

    Jake Leschyshyn has been reassigned to the Henderson Silver Knights

  16. THE hockey GOD

    DAryrl wrote
    >>>>Of course it’s apples to oranges, because it was my comment. If it was your comment it would be apples to apples… It’s always the same with you>>>I guess you missed all times I called RL “wiggy biscuit” , your original comment “You talk all this crap about other posters who dont like RL or Krebs or other players, ” So again you are either sleeping or trolling as usual. YOU OWE Me AN APOLOGY

    an apology !!

    waiting.
    still waiting. do it, be a man !

  17. Galdom

    Vegas 5
    Edmonton 4 OT

  18. Galdom

    Call me crazy but Vegas just had something resembling a decent power-play

  19. I watch him every night and he coffs up the puck and blind passes ussually 2 or three times a night in the d zone at a critical point . Maybe i am seeing a diffrent game but give me Mcnabe any day if you want solid defence . Not a pretty skater but can deliver game changing checks and solid defence. “Lets gp Brayden”

    • Daryl

      I agree with everything you stated, but I would take Martinez. He plays great defense but he can score also

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