(Photo Credit: SinBin.vegas Photographer Brandon Andreasen)
It was certainly a shock for Golden Knights fans when Vegas’ front office announced in July that they had traded original misfit Reilly Smith to the Pittsburgh Penguins. Clearly, the decision was necessary since Vegas needed to lock up Ivan Barbashev to a lengthy deal. The bottom line was the Golden Knights couldn’t financially fit both wingers (and Adin Hill) on their roster, so Smith was sacrificed. As much as it was a bummer for fans in Las Vegas, it was easier to take with every sip of suds out of their new 2023 Stanley Cup Champions pint glass. With Smith removed, the Golden Knights are likely done trading away the remaining Original Misfits. Or are they?
There are no negotiations that have been done. I know that sometimes the Golden Knights like to take their time with that. We will see what it will give. –Jonathan Marchessault to TVA Sports
For some reason, Jonathan Marchessault’s comment earlier this month created mass panic inside the walls of several NHL outlets. The current Conn Smyth keeper expressed his feelings with TVA Sports on his relationship with coach Bruce Cassidy and the lack of contract extension talks with Vegas’ FO. However, Marchessault stated it himself: ” the Golden Knights like to take their time with that.” That doesn’t sound like a winger preparing to list his house on the market next summer.
We’re talking about Jonathan Marchessault, if there were real problems, we would’ve known. He’s always been honest, emotional, and expressive. This isn’t a shot at the rest of the Golden Knights but #81 has more personality in his compact frame than half of the locker room combined. That’s why he’s an overwhelming fan favorite. Marchessault’s comments were a response to a question about his expiring contract, of course, he’s going to be forthcoming. An extension is obviously on his and his agent’s mind, but the Stanley Cup champ never suggested it was a concern. Just business.
We have built something exceptional. But the life of a hockey player is never safe. That’s what keeps us humble. –Marchessault to TVA Sports
Is it possible the 33-year-old and the front office are unable to come to an extension agreement? Of course. One of the reasons why the Golden Knights are the Stanley Cup champions is the organization’s ability to ignore emotions and move fan favorites for key parts. It worked. So yes, it’s plausible Vegas passes on Marchessault’s request. As of right now, he’s under contract for 2023-24 and will be expected to drive offense like he has throughout his entire contract. Despite the expiring contract, it makes absolutely no sense for the Golden Knights to move him now.
The Hockey News volunteered a scenario that would place the Golden Knights in a position to wheel and deal at next season’s trade deadline. Players on expiring deals might be targeted, at which point Marchessault would be very attractive to any contender. However, the club should never be in that dire situation. The Golden Knights are bound to be in the playoff hunt and won’t be sellers at the deadline based solely on their roster makeup. If the reigning champs are somehow out of a postseason position by mid-March, Marchessault won’t be the only name on the block.
Another reason VGK fans shouldn’t worry about Marchessault being dealt is his age and the crop of UFAs available next July. Auston Matthews, William Nylander, and Mark Scheifele lead the list of offensive weapons. Marchessault will be desired but not a priority for most teams, except Vegas. Plus, he would likely take a “buy-in” type contract in order to stay in Las Vegas where his children have spent most of their lives. Not to mention Cassidy and the front office know exactly what they have with Marchessault. They know while he can be an honest pain in the ass he’s also extremely determined, motivated but most of all… clutch. You can’t pay enough for important postseason goals like #81 has provided since 2018.
The Conn Smythe winner isn’t going anywhere.
Jake
Who will be the last “Misfit” standing?
sb
Easy. Karlsson.
THE hockey GOD
this is old stale news
– how about not touching the semi finals conference trophy working out
for VGK. So much for the idiots here who said they should have picked it up.
Jinxes exist, whether you like it or not.
Remember the gaf MAF said to pick it up, the first time they went to finals. MAF is a jinx to VGK. Good thing they didn’t listen to him this time around BECAUSE HIs SORRy BUTT was shipped out of town awhile back. Good riddance. Bad luck MAF. Gaffer MAF. Back stabber MAF. Enuf already.
Sharke
Lmao, 6 of the last 7 cup winners before Vegas had touched the conference trophy.
Take your weak minded superstition somewhere else. It literally doesn’t matter.
THE hockey GOD
that is a bald faced lie
Woody
You’re a fuc#ing douche bag-insecure-deplorable-hide behind your computer verbal bully! Someone that has NEVER laced up hockey skates EVER, why Sinbin allows you to be a continual on-line trolling pain in EVERYONES ASS is beyond me? Sad part is that, I LOVE reading their stories but you THG, (blasphemy at its highest regard, a one way ticket to Hell essentially) ruins it for all involved that even have a valid comment! Back to the other sites that control their Trump trolls…you know, the Trumplorables
TS
Woody. Thanks for your very observant comment. The God has been in his rabbit hole of REPUGNANT DELUSION and RAGE for YEARS. A real PURVEYOR of POLITICAL PUCKY. He actually uses RELIGION to justify his HATE. Incomprehensible how any one man can harbor sooooo much HATE for other Americans. But, considering Trump’s treasonous action against our government, it’s NOT A SHOCK. Gullible, weak- minded people fall so easily to a CULT. They blindly follow a KNOWN corrupt, unethical man into HELL. I feel sorry for Repugnants …their train wreck is just ONE TRUMP CONVICTION AWAY….
THE hockey GOD
“Lmao, 6 of the last 7 cup winners before Vegas had touched the conference trophy” so did the losers.
so your post doesn’t mean squat .
Called out.
Sorvino
Well done on your research Sharke. Tampa always touches the conference championship trophy.
https://youtu.be/ehIudvJsMq8
Sorvino
Again, well done on your research. The Colorado avalanche also touched the Conference trophy.
https://www.nhl.com/news/gabriel-landeskog-nathan-mackinnon-touch-campbell-bowl/c-334513894
Sorvino
Well done on your research Sharke. The Washington Capitals touched the conference trophy when they beat us to win the Stanley Cup.
https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2018/05/25/alex-ovechkin-capitals-not-scared-touch-prince-wales-trophy/
THE hockey GOD
“Washington caps touched conference trophy”
so did VGK
so your post doesn’t prove anything, except MAF is a jerk for
saying VGK should touch it.
My OP was in regard to VGK, not six of last seven or whatever spin out you people who can’t read posts want to spin. Learn to fucking read.
Sorvino
God boy, you said that jinxes exist and used your example of Vegas doing the “right” thing and not touching the cup.
Then you were proven wrong, and that actually helped prove yourself wrong even more by mentioning that both teams touched the cup, and it doesn’t mean anything. You sort of made a fool of yourself like you usually do but this time it was regarding actual hockey facts. Sorry about that but you kind of did it to yourself.
No
You really are a dumb fucking cunt. I know this may shock you but I Ddread the comment section here because I know your permavirgin faggot ass has some dumb shit to spew.
THE hockey GOD
stop being so hard on yourself
Curly
or should I say Moe ?
BTW there is a whole story about this on NHL right now. I suppose you want to take back your idiotic , stupid, statement?
most unsophisticated fan base here – ian said it not me>>>>>
Vegas Golden Knights
tnSporseodc
The night we didn’t touch the trophy
nhl dot clom
knights fan in minny
wow no do you have anger or mental problems
Mike Paine
Jesus, dude, why don’t you tell us how you really feel…….
larry
Would it surprise me if he was moved?….NO!!….would it surprise me if he stayed on a 2 year sweetheart home discount deal…NO!!…its a business…if we can get younger…and Marchy slows down a little bit….it all adds up and makes sense…there is no doubt in my mind that the wonderfully drunken ‘fucking’ William Karlsson will be the last misfit standing when all is said and done!!
Pistol Pete
It would seem to all have to do with how well he plays this season. With him the playoffs are sort of a wildcard in that it can be his best time of the year. complicating a trade deadline decision to trade him. Given his age, $5m cap hit and the salary cap going up again for 2024-25 it’s obvious McCrimmon will consider replacing him with a much younger William Nylander for example. If it is Nylander I have no idea how a deal with the Leafs could be worked but there would probably be a way.
Pistol Pete
McPhee and NcCrimmon have been awfully smart how they were able to build this team acquiring key veteran players. I have a theory they can perpetuate a championship-capable roster without enduring a last place finishing decline and get the #1 picks that way. Simply replace retiring talent with elite veteran players in their prime and develop certain prospects into solid depth (or better) players.
sb
Marchessault ($5 mil) and Martinez ($5.2 mil) will play out the season and the Playoffs with VGK …. but won’t get new contracts. In 2024-25, Hague slots up with Alex P., Hutton slots up with Whitecloud. Along with the $5 mil cap increase, this leaves VGK with $15.2 mil July 1st. A raise for Chandler, a bump in pay for Carrier, Amadio and Hutton. That leaves $10 million for VGK to sign Jack’s new right wing, William Nylander. The first line is then set into the next decade.
Pistol Pete
That’s right. Martinez + Marchy = $10.2 m plus the 2024-25 salary cap increase. If Dorofeyev does well he could command $3.5m. There should be enough to sign Nylander should McCrimmon decide not to re-sign Marchy. Nylander must be able to play the 200 ft. game however. That’s up to the analytics guys and Cassidy to figure out if he can be a good defensive forward. That’s how you win Cups. Seems likely Nylander will buy into that.
Pistol Pete
2024-25 salary cap up another $4.2m ($87.7m). Easier to carry four players in the sort of $9-10m range.
Sorvino
Not a bad plan sb.
Tim
Agree Karlsson last Misfit standing. Marchy hard-nosed play but 32 will they resign him? It seems like there continually trying to get younger so Marchy and Martinez next two out the door seems logical.
THE hockey GOD
dogs day of august needs some infusion of TRUTH and JUSTICE NOW !!
If there wasn’t a deep state before 2016, 7 years of full-spectrum political warfare against the MAGA insurgency has created one by now.
1) They framed Trump for collusion to spy on his campaign
2) When he won anyway, Comey’s FBI an off the books investigation on their own CINC
3) When Trump caught on and fired Comey, they ensured the “investigation” continued under Mueller – the primary FBI Russia collusion investigator wrote that he didn’t want to be involved w/the Mueller team because “there’s no there there” but agreed to do it to help bring about impeachment (he actually wrote this)
4) Mueller figured out there was no collusion a month into his investigation, but dragged it out another year and a half to keep GOP investigators from accessing FBI/DOJ officials, and to try to bait Trump into doing something they could call obstruction of justice
5) The Democrats take back the House in 2018, shut down the investigations into spying
6) Mueller immediately wraps up his task now that there are no GOP investigations to worry about, and hands the ball to Congressional Democrats for phase two: impeachment
7) A CIA spy planted in the White House tries to leak the contents of a Presidential phone call to Adam Schiff, who then tells him to write it up as a “whistleblower” report for marketing reasons
8) During the phone call, Trump asked Zelensky to put his people in touch with the Attorney General’s office to compare notes on what we now know is overwhelming evidence of the Bidens engaging in bribery, money laundering, and racketeering
9) The Democrats impeach Trump for this, and limp-wristed, compromised Republicans went along w/the charade, just like they did w/RussiaGate long after it had been proven to be hoax
10) In 2020, the public health bureaucracy joined the fight against Trump, working with Democrats and the media to use COVID to benefit Democrats in the election
11) 2020 color revolution on the streets of America as they tried to bait Trump into calling out the military, so that the traitor Milley could refuse and action could be taken against Trump
12) The FBI works together w/Big Tech to engage in unprecedented censorship to protect Biden
13) Election fortified by “a well-funded cabal of powerful people, ranging across industries and ideologies, working together behind the scenes to influence perceptions, change rules and laws, steer media coverage and control the flow of information”
14) Milley going behind the President’s back with Chinese military officials
15) Fed agents agitating for a riot on Jan 6
16) Domestic War in Terror
17) State & federal prosecutors using selective, novel interpretations of laws to threaten Trump w/jail while the DOJ brazenly covers up plain proof of straightforward Biden corruption
18) <—- you are here
19) Trump is still going to be the 2024 nominee, so it won’t stop
This has gone on nonstop for 7 years, and has involved a vast public-private partnership of corrupt vested interests that have gone so far and crossed so many lines that they cannot afford, at any cost, to lose power.
Jailbird
Blah, blah, blah, bullshit! You are so scared your rabbit hole cult is going to implode you just can’t shut your idiot mouth. We know you so well and know you are losing it thg! …………………. As far as Marchy, he’s not going anywhere. He’s the heart and soul of the room. Just watch “Quest for the Stanley Cup”and you will see!
THE hockey GOD
only cult now is yours, it’s called 10% for the big guy gofundme now friends of biden crime family;
and it includes your climate change big money grifters like that little girl with no education and frankenstein kerry.
Sorvino
The hockey God is entitled to his opinion in regards to the myth regarding touching the conference trophy and the jinx. He has been clearly debunked and proven wrong by Sharke. I wish he would just take it like a man and move on. Most of hockey gods hockey only posts are based on facts, but he missed on this one.
Anything, he says non-hockey I simply don’t read after the first sentence.
My opinion on why Vegas won. I believe it had to do with being a much better team with better coaching.
THE hockey GOD
excuse me Sorvino
my post was specifically directed to VGK
“– how about not touching the semi finals conference trophy working out
for VGK. So much for the idiots here who said they should have picked it up.”
so much for the jinx there !
Sharkey spun it out to larger scale beyond my posts. Learn to read people.
but he’s right about six of last seven, which was not what my OP was about.
Try to stay focused.
Sorvino
Also wanted to just say that Marc Andre Fleury is a piece of shit simply because I haven’t said that in about two weeks.
Jailbird
Our Stanley Cup Champs are coming back in just a few weeks now. Hockey, hockey , hockey!
THE hockey GOD
@JB but first the prospect tournament mainly in Henderson.
THE hockey GOD
he Bruins won the Presidents’ Trophy Thursday night, clinching the best record in the NHL with a 2-1 overtime win against the Columbus Blue Jackets at TD Garden. They also set a new franchise record with their 58th win of the season.
It’s an impressive accomplishment, and coach Jim Montgomery and his team acknowledged as much after the game. It’s the first of three team trophies they can win, with — they hope — the Prince of Wales Trophy (for winning the Eastern Conference) and Stanley Cup to follow.
Bruins clinch Presidents’ Trophy with fight-filled win over Columbus
“Obviously to have won the Presidents’ Trophy, like I said to the players, be proud of what we achieved,” Montgomery said. “I guess it exemplifies how good of a team we’ve been. That’s a feather in everyone’s cap, throughout the organization.”
“Of course you’re proud,” captain Patrice Bergeron added. “It’s a lot of games, a lot of hard work. I’m proud of the way we’ve done it, by sticking to our process and rolling as a team and learning and really playing for each other. That being said, it’s nice, but obviously you have your eyes set on something bigger. We know we have a lot of work in front of us.”
If you look at recent history, or if you believe in curses, you might be worried about what the Presidents’ Trophy means for the Bruins’ chances of winning that something bigger. The so-called “Presidents’ Trophy curse” has been vicious in recent years.
It has been 10 years since a Presidents’ Trophy winner won the Stanley Cup. In 2012-13, the Chicago Blackhawks won it in a lockout-shortened season and went on to beat the Bruins in the Stanley Cup Final.
so much for curses.
Jailbird
Wrong again. The AVs won the presidents trophey in 21/22 and WON the Stanley Cup! You just throw any shit out there don’t you!
Jailbird
Scratch that, I’m wrong. AVs won it in 2021, but won cup in2022. My bad.
THE hockey GOD
BREAKING idiot woke cancel culture moes on left called out. Next up Cleveland Indians (what is a commander and a guardian anyway, stupid silly names for
sports teams. STOP THE CANCEL CULTURE BULL SHIT
Native American group calls on Commanders to rename team Redskins: ‘Cannot erase history’
Washington changed its name in 2020
Vic
Was looking at stats for two former Cleveland Indian players Bob Feller and Jim Thome. The teams they played for were the Indians, but the article says they played for the Guardians. Really? Feller played for the Indians from 1936 – 1956, and of course there was no such thing as the Guardians until recently. Thome was inducted into the Hall as an Indian. Isn’t rewriting history fun.
Sorvino
https://www.google.ca/search?q=Hope%20Memorial%20Bridge&ludocid=9255128993368143169&ibp=gwp%3B0%2C7&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwix6qj_49qAAxUNl4kEHTbBB2IQvsQGegQIGBAt&ictx=0&biw=390&bih=664&dpr=3&asid=canlbsc#lkt=LocalPoiPhotos
Guardian is named after a bridge in Cleveland.
Hope Memorial Bridge originally called the Guardian Bridge in Cleveland
THE hockey GOD
maybe they should change their name to the Cleveland Hope Memorials Bridge ?
Stupid name for baseball team, cancel culture is stupid and silly. Just like the people promoting it. Bunch of MOE RONS.
THE hockey GOD
sorvino wrote:
“God boy, you said that jinxes exist and used your example of Vegas doing the “right” thing and not touching the cup*****. ”
And the VGL WON, did they not win. ARe you in a freaking coma ?
“Then you were proven wrong”. How was I proven wrong ? VGK
lost when they touched the trophy
No I was right, your spin won’t fly here.
I wasn’t proven wrong, I was Talking about VGK , not anyone else. My original post was very clear. Take your bull shit spin elsewhere.
VGK touched it when MAF in first season said to, and they lost- jinx confirmed
VGK didn’t touch it this year, and they won – JINX CONFIRMED
So stop your bull shit spinning
BTW it was trophy, not the cup, try
to GET THAT RIGHT? LEARN TO FUCKING READ.
it’s like talking to two year olds on this forum, or brain dead BIDEN supporters. No difference.
THE hockey GOD
this is old stale news
– how about THE VGK not touching the semi finals conference trophy working out
for VGK. So much for the idiots here who said they THE VGK should have picked it up.
Jinxes exist, whether you like it or not. ( THE NHL VGK SITE JUST DID A STORY IN THIS. )
Remember the gaf MAF said to THE VGK TO pick it up, the first time they, THE VGK went to finals. MAF is a jinx to VGK. Good thing they THE VFG didn’t listen to him this time around BECAUSE HIs SORRy BUTT was shipped out of VGK town awhile back. Good riddance. Bad luck MAF. Gaffer MAF. Back stabber MAF. Enuf already.
There I fixed it so the brain dead two year old on this forum can maybe understand
(But I highly doubt it)
morons – you can’t fix stupid.
TS
Ummm…Control, we have a problem. Hockey withdrawal is REAL. Just look at all the IRRITABLE, COMBATIVE Snipes here— Good Grief!!
P.s. Glad I’m staying outta the melee!
P.s.s. LIGHTEN UP, PEOPLE…
GOTTA MAINTAIN CONTROL. Save your Snipes for our opponents! PEACE!!
Satan
This is Satan.
Satan periodically reviews the comment section and is pleased to see that his services continued to no longer be needed. Fantastic work by certain commenters like JB, TS, jailbird and Sharke. Well done.
Satan has spoken.
TS
Satan, I appreciate your oversight! And your interest in VGK Hockey— who woulda thunk it!! Cannot wait til the season begins!
THE hockey GOD
typical satan no value added comment to forum, another two year old brain washed scumbag, no one hears you because you are writing. What a Moe ! Ron.
who names themselves after the devil ? Pyschocreep stalker.
THE hockey GOD
the dumb chit goobner of Hawaii is trying to blame this on global cooling, I mean warming, I mean climate change. The cultists on the last can’t even come up with a name for the hoax grifter schemes. The bottom line is that blue state goobners in control are very poor custodians of our nature resources. Simple measures like clearing and grubbing the undergrowth , as buried in this article, could have prevented this disaster. But instead they spend our tax dollars on their perverted special interest groups. It’s so sad when one political part of spectrum is so incompetent and self centered in pushing their unwanted social agenda down our throats to risk the very precious resources they should be protecting in the first place.
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Dave Vogt
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Dave Vogt
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“If you stopped, you were dead. Animals were dead in the street, people were trying to get out,” Vogt says. “There was no opportunity to give a warning. It was faster than anyone could have pushed a warning button, it was windy and then the fire started and it went fast.”
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“It was hot, just like a torch, and the wind was so strong and swirling and the glow kept getting bigger and bigger, pushing down towards us,” Vogt says. “The fire jumped Front Street and jumped into the harbor.”
And in between were people trapped in their cars.
“I think people were scared to get out because there was fire all around them,” Vogt says.
The fire melted the dock lines first, he added, and caught the boats on fire. The wind blew them out into the water, and most ended up on the reef.
“They were still on fire the next day, slowly burning,” Vogt says. “It looked like Ukraine.”
Some of the boats blew up right away, before they even melted the lines, just instantly on fire.
At the harbor, people who chose to abandon their cars were jumping into the water. The heat was melting the plastic boat ties, sending them adrift and in flames.
“It was a fiery mess,” Vogt says. “And a lot of it was the fire on the water. It might appear to be on the water, but it was the boats burning while they’re sinking.”
“The Coast Guard was calling on fishing vessels that were out there to come help pick people up,” Vogt says. “So the only people who could help were out on the boats.”
When Vogt returned on Wednesday, he surveyed the damage of an aluminum boat he had completely melted in the intense heat, burned out cars, boats smoldering in the harbor – and bodies on the seawall.
“There were a lot the night before,” Vogt says. “But when I was there we only saw two or three. They must have cleared a lot. There’s a section of cars they’re not touching.”
Vogt says they cleared every road he saw except one section of the gridlocked Front Street.
“I think they’re not doing that because there’s people still burned in those cars,” Vogt says.
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People now are questioning why alarms weren’t sounded earlier in order to avoid this massive tragedy.
“There probably should have been a more aggressive activation at the onset, more preparation,” Hawaii State Sen. Angus McKelvey told USA Today. “We heard about the red flage warning as brush fires were definitely a concern initially, not this cataclysmic totality that overwhelmed the community.”
But Vogt doesn’t think there was time given the conditions he observed.
“I would pass the blame if there was blame to have been passed,” he says. “But the fire was moving as fast as the wind. And the wind was fast.”
In parasailing, Vogt says, “all we do is watch the wind. It’s never what the forecasters say. It’s usually way stronger.”
>>>>>>>>So he generally errs on the side of caution. What made this different, he believes, was the overgrown dry grasses and old cane fields that weren’t maintained with cutting or controlled burns.<<<<<<there it is.
“The old cane fields are all around, so there was plenty of fuel for the fire,” Vogt says. “The town is surrounded by these dry fields. So there was plenty of fuel for the fire and it set fire to the town.”
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For now, Vogt says he is fine. But he is concerned for his employees, who lost everything in the fire.
“They are the ones who need the help right now. They barely got out with the shirts on their backs,” Vogt says. “So I’m hoping a GoFundMe can help them.”
If you would like to help these local workers directly, please donate to Employees of Ka'anapali Beach Parasail.
TS
Holy shit, man— get a HOBBY. Go golfing. Go for a long drive. Clean out your garage. Do SOMETHING besides whatever THIS is. We ALL get our news already…from the NEWS networks. GOOD GRIEF.
Sorvino
THG is a lunatic
THE hockey GOD
let me clean that article up, too many re winds
Dave Vogt
Lahaina business owner Dave Vogt. Photo:
Dave Vogt
Racing to save his boats from the raging inferno devastating the Hawaiian tourist town of Lahaina, Parasail owner Dave Vogt saw things he’ll never forget.
“Everything was blowing up. Everything. Every five seconds you hear, ‘Boom! Boom! Boom!’ ” Vogt, 40, tells PEOPLE. “I think it was the gas tanks from the cars stuck on the roads.”
Vogt was one of countless residents and tourists trying to escape when Lahaina was burnt to the ground on Aug 8 after hurricane force winds sparked flames from a yet undetermined source and ignited the dry fields around the area. With little or no warning, residents and tourists were forced to flee from the tiny town with limited access on narrow roads.
Many are presumed dead when they could not get out of their cars before the flames consumed the gridlocked vehicles.
“If you stopped, you were dead. Animals were dead in the street, people were trying to get out,” Vogt says. “There was no opportunity to give a warning. It was faster than anyone could have pushed a warning button, it was windy and then the fire started and it went fast.”
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When the wind first started up, Vogt wasn’t overly concerned. Even a downed telephone pole only served as a reminder that the family should make a trip to the local Safeway to get supplies in case it got worse.
There had been a hurricane warning, but it wasn’t expected to hit the island. Vogt was sitting in his truck with the kids while his wife went into the store. Then, he says, it got really, really windy.
“Something didn’t feel right, so I told her to get out of the store,” Vogt says. “All of a sudden, power lines came crashing down. But no sign of fire yet. I have a big truck. We jumped the curb, went up the hill and just [tried] to get out of Dodge.”
Five minutes later, they looked back and smoke was everywhere, “just like an inferno.”
That was when Vogt made the decision to drop the family off at the house five miles from Lahaina and grab his father to help move the boats from the downtown harbor area. By the time they got there, the roads were barricaded. So the two men ran on foot to where their boats were being kept.
They quickly moved the boats to a safe spot at an inlet. Vogt had two dirt bikes at the boatyard, so they jumped on them and rode out of town. They bypassed the lines of cars where people were stuck and felt the heat rising as the fire swooped down on the town.
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“It was hot, just like a torch, and the wind was so strong and swirling and the glow kept getting bigger and bigger, pushing down towards us,” Vogt says. “The fire jumped Front Street and jumped into the harbor.”
And in between were people trapped in their cars.
“I think people were scared to get out because there was fire all around them,” Vogt says.
The fire melted the dock lines first, he added, and caught the boats on fire. The wind blew them out into the water, and most ended up on the reef.
“They were still on fire the next day, slowly burning,” Vogt says. “It looked like Ukraine.”
Some of the boats blew up right away, before they even melted the lines, just instantly on fire.
At the harbor, people who chose to abandon their cars were jumping into the water. The heat was melting the plastic boat ties, sending them adrift and in flames.
“It was a fiery mess,” Vogt says. “And a lot of it was the fire on the water. It might appear to be on the water, but it was the boats burning while they’re sinking.”
“The Coast Guard was calling on fishing vessels that were out there to come help pick people up,” Vogt says. “So the only people who could help were out on the boats.”
When Vogt returned on Wednesday, he surveyed the damage of an aluminum boat he had completely melted in the intense heat, burned out cars, boats smoldering in the harbor – and bodies on the seawall.
“There were a lot the night before,” Vogt says. “But when I was there we only saw two or three. They must have cleared a lot. There’s a section of cars they’re not touching.”
Vogt says they cleared every road he saw except one section of the gridlocked Front Street.
“I think they’re not doing that because there’s people still burned in those cars,” Vogt says.
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People now are questioning why alarms weren’t sounded earlier in order to avoid this massive tragedy.
“There probably should have been a more aggressive activation at the onset, more preparation,” Hawaii State Sen. Angus McKelvey told USA Today. “We heard about the red flage warning as brush fires were definitely a concern initially, not this cataclysmic totality that overwhelmed the community.”
But Vogt doesn’t think there was time given the conditions he observed.
“I would pass the blame if there was blame to have been passed,” he says. “But the fire was moving as fast as the wind. And the wind was fast.”
In parasailing, Vogt says, “all we do is watch the wind. It’s never what the forecasters say. It’s usually way stronger.”
>>>>>>>>So he generally errs on the side of caution. What made this different, he believes, was the overgrown dry grasses and old cane fields that weren’t maintained with cutting or controlled burns.<<<<<<there it is.
“The old cane fields are all around, so there was plenty of fuel for the fire,” Vogt says. “The town is surrounded by these dry fields. So there was plenty of fuel for the fire and it set fire to the town.”
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For now, Vogt says he is fine. But he is concerned for his employees, who lost everything in the fire.
“They are the ones who need the help right now. They barely got out with the shirts on their backs,” Vogt says. “So I’m hoping a GoFundMe can help them.”
If you would like to help these local workers directly, please donate to Employees of Ka'anapali Beach Parasail.
August 14, 2023
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Jailbird
KEN ….. Over the years lots of people have asked you WHY do you allow posts such as above. Thousands and thousands of words with nothing to do with hockey or even sports. Do you not respect us enough to answer us? So just tell us why you allow this on your site? If you want to claim free speech, then tell us. Maybe you yourself IS thg? Have the balls to respond and tell us why you ignor the vast majority of the people here that want this stopped! Tell us, why won’t you put a stop to it! WHY?
THE hockey GOD
JB
politics is hockey, deal with it snowflake.
why should people put up with left lib tard whiners like you ???
Ken Boehlke
I tell everyone the same thing, and I’ll keep telling it the same way.
Moderating posts is a no win game. It takes a massive amount of time and energy and a set of rules that’s impossible to write.
The answer is so simple, has been the entire time, and maybe rather than comment on my balls (or lack thereof), realize I’m doing exactly what I instruct everyone else to do.
Stop interacting with posts you do not find interesting. If it’s not about hockey and you want to talk about hockey, ignore it and move on (as I’ve been doing since the moment this site was born). The reason these posts continue is because it is doing exactly what it was set out to do… get a rise out of you. It’s actually easier and less time consuming to keep scrolling every time you see the name of a poster you don’t like than it is to read the entire post, formulate a response, and give that person/people exactly what they wanted.
This is a public forum and will remain a public forum. Of course, the content of the site is Vegas Golden Knights hockey. That will never change. However, it’s not up to me what people discuss below what I write. If you do not feel the need to be a part of a particular discussion, don’t. If you do, do. If you feel like the subject needs to be changed, rather than chastising the other subject, just change it.
And… for the record… I only post as myself, I ain’t got time for burners.
THE hockey GOD
https://twitter.com/GoldenKnights/status/1663380170596556800?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1663380170596556800%7Ctwgr%5E5755279465f38ea0f17d56ef1a52121e80ef0a82%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nhl.com%2Fgoldenknights%2Fnews%2Fthe-sixteen-golden-knights-rout-stars-to-advance-to-stanley-cup-final%2Fc-345578580
Woody
THG, G-A-F-L
Will S.
Is this “journalism” or an opinion piece? Some of the statements in this article is purely based on the writer’s feelings. Sports itself is emotional, don’t need sports writers to be that as well. The fanaticism shows; you don’t need to become a mouthpiece for the team you cover.
Ken Boehlke
It’s an opinion piece. If you think we are a mouthpiece for the Golden Knights… you might want to read a bit more of our work.
TS
Um..
Will, we are ALL VGK fans on this here hockey site, incl Ken and Jason. And YES, Ken is one of the voices of the fans and the team. And he is understandebly positive about VGK Hockey. WHY does that surprise you?
JEESH…