As the Eichel drama continues, we chat about the toll it may be having on the current Golden Knights, as well as check in on the latest injuries, look back at the disastrous Toronto game and make predictions on the rest of the road trip. As always, the show airs live at 7 PM every Wednesday (or Thursday when VGK play on Wednesday).
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VGK vs SEA (10/10/23)
VGK -165
SEA +140
O/U 6 (O -125)
VGK at SJS (10/12/23)
VGK -235
SJS +192
O/U 6.5 (U -120)
VGK vs ANA (10/14/23)
VGK -350
ANA +275
O/U 6.5 (U -115)
VGK to make playoffs
Yes -470
No +350
VGK to win Stanley Cup
+950 (T-5th)
VGK to win Western Conference
+430 (3rd)
VGK to win Pacific Division
+230 (2nd)
TV UPDATE
Vegas 34 has been switched to Channel 34 on Cox.
So, Vegas 34 is now on 34 on Cox, DirecTV, and over the air. It’s still on 32 on Dish.
After missing a practice, William Karlsson is back on the ice for today’s skate.
Jack Eichel played 2:19 on the penalty kill last night. That's more than he saw in all but one of his 123 games as a Golden Knight.
Bruce Cassidy explained why he used Jack on the PK last night and how much he'd like to see him out there moving forward.
Photo courtesy of Cox Communications
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Vic
Mike is excellent, has a good grasp of the big picture and is a Python fan. I didn’t hear mention of something I’ve noticed too many times this season…..all three forwards wind up in very deep with nobody at the net. In the last game, this directly led to odd man breakouts. Lack of net presence is not good, and continues.
Just playing around out of boredom……With the skeleton crew, the VGK have won 44.4% of the 9 games. There are 27 games to go before 1/1/22. Without considering the opposition nor home/away (do those things really matter right now?), my actuarial fairy dust says the VGK are operating with 5 out of 12 quality NHL level forwards, 5 of 6 legit D-men, average goaltending, zero PP, and below average PK. This adds up to possibly winning 11 of the 27 game remaining in 2021. The record as of 1/1/22 should be in the vicinity of 15 wins and 21 losses not counting any more injuries, Eichel nonsense, puck luck, a sudden burst of passion, Lehner leaving to become NHL commissioner or a social worker, and some young guys producing something. What say you Arnold Rothstein…how many times will you play the puck line against the VGK before the New Year?
THE hockey GOD
Jesse Granger
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The Golden Knights have traded Alex Tuch, Peyton Krebs, a 2022 first round pick, and 2023 3rd round pick for Jack Eichel and a 2023 3rd round pick.
THE hockey GOD
vlad is happy , his two favorite players are gone, and management has just gutted the organization worse than any trade before.
don’t see how they can make cap with this trade, some more shredding ? did someone retain salary ?
Blitz
Its sad news. I see the future in Krebs and of course tuch had alot of good moments here and another quality misfit gone.
The FO has shit the bed since firing Turk. This is a hail mary. It ends in victory or its game over. To make things worse the cap cutting has just begun. The knife is being sharpened.
THE hockey GOD
panic move, desperation, potential bust and franchise killer
they wouldn’t retain perron due to neck injury, yet they go after one with more perilous , and it won’t bring cup this year potentially.
granted krebs wasn’t putting points on scoreboard, but surround him with talent that sabres have and he could potentially boost their team down the road.
THE hockey GOD
Vegas
Jack Eichel C, Vegas Golden Knights
The 2022 first-round pick the Vegas Golden Knights included in the Jack Eichel trade is top-10 protected.
In other words, if that pick ends up being in the top-10 then Vegas keeps it. It’s not clear what the Sabres will receive instead. Typically when a draft pick has this kind of protection, the team will be compensated with a pick from the following draft, so in this case the Buffalo Sabres would get the Golden Knights’ 2023 first-round pick while Vegas would keep their 2022 first rounder. That arrangement hasn’t been confirmed though. Additionally, the Sabres won’t be retaining any of Eichel’s salary.
Source: Darren Dreger on Twitter
Nov 4, 2021, 9:15 AM ET
Buffalo
Alex Tuch RW, Buffalo Sabres
The Buffalo Sabres have acquired Alex Tuch, Peyton Krebs, a first-round pick in 2022 and a third-round selection in 2023 for Jack Eichel.
Tuch is out after undergoing shoulder surgery at the end of July and is expected back after the Olympics, the same time frame as Eichel is expected to be out. Tuch should see middle-six time with Buffalo once healthy and is coming off a good season where he had 18 goals and 33 points in 55 games last season. Look for Tuch to average around .6 points per game, once he returns.
Source: The Athletic
Nov 4, 2021, 8:50 AM ET
Buffalo
Peyton Krebs LW, Buffalo Sabres
Peyton Krebs has been dealt to the Buffalo Sabres with Alex Tuch, a first-round pick in 2022 and a third-round selection in 2023 for center Jack Eichel.
The Sabres have an outstanding prospect in Krebs to add to their stable of young players but it came at a high cost in Eichel who was not going to play in Buffalo any more. Krebs was selected 17th overall in 2019 but should have gone much higher as he suffered an Achilles injury three weeks before the Draft and that scared off some teams. Krebs did not have a point in nine games with Vegas this season but had five assists in two games with Henderson of the AHL. Look for Krebs to take a top-six role in Buffalo and get 35-40 points this season.
Source: The Athletic
Nov 4, 2021, 8:46 AM ET
Vegas
Jack Eichel C, Vegas Golden Knights
The Vegas Golden Knights have acquired Jack Eichel from the Buffalo Sabres for Peyton Krebs, Alex Tuch, a first-round pick in 2022 and a third-round pick in 2023.
And so ends the saga of Eichel and the Sabres. Eichel will require surgery to repair a herniated disc in his neck that should keep him out of action until after the Olympics. He wanted artificial disc replacement, something the Sabres would not agree to, but the Golden Knights obviously will. When healthy, Eichel is a top-10 player in the NHL and could help push the Golden Knights to the Stanley Cup as he is the first line center they have always been missing. The first-round pick will be top-10 protected but it looks like the Golden Knights are once again Stanley Cup contenders.
THE hockey GOD
in six month vlad will be spewing Eichel hate posts, wait for it.
Jason Mason
Watch for Reilly to be gone by the trade deadline, otherwise they lose him to free agency, and nothing in return. Can’t afford to keep him, and honestly, why would he stay.
Front office needs to say the words…rebuild. Own it by saying it or it just looks like what it is…panic mode. At some point at least one guy wearing a tie needs to be traded. Maybe they should hire a scientist that specializes in Chemistry.
No playoffs this year, unless we’re very lucky. It’s called rebuilding. Say it.
THE hockey GOD
panic move, and re build are not the same thing.
Foley wants to win SC now, not re build.
The only way they “re build” is if patches , stone, no 18, no 19 and no 7 are dealt.
It’s a long, long, long way from “re build”.
THE hockey GOD
moving reilly smith isn’t a re build move, just another MAF salary dump move
need to re vamp entire team for “re build”, and they will need to dump another player to retain salary cap NHL regs. And that is also not a re build. Meeting Sal cap is not re build.
if they are well out of playoffs by trade dead line, they may be able to deal two players and get something worthwhile for them, stay under the cap. That still isn’t a re build.
Jason mason
Maybe Mc and Mc are just playing on bad ice.
THE hockey GOD
lol, or mixing it in their drinks ! !
Ken is saying more about this on twitter.
vgk21
Look, losing Tuch is what I don’t like. He is the key to a dangerous 3rd line, and he is at times a dominating presence on the bottom 6. However, he is injury prone, and that plays into it.
but Krebs? come on, he is a mid level prospect. and that has nothing to do with that one trick pony poster on here. it has to do with the eye test, comparing him to other players drafted in the same year as he was.
it does not take a rocket scientist on skates to see that Suzuki is a far better player than Glass, and similarly it is easy to see that Krebs is inferior to Trevor Zegras and others in his draft class.
no, this trade will help the Vgk in the long term, but it all depends on the CHEMISTRY that develops between Eichel and Stone and Pacioretty, but I think they will be great, and the Vgk top 6 will be as good as any in the league. and the PP will improve for sure.
However, the 3rd line now becomes the problem, because if you have more scoring punch in the top 6, then the focus ahead for the 3rd line is that it must become more defensively responsible, and I don’t see that in Dadonov or Patrick.
and the Dmen have to stop running around, and play their damn position, not try to be Bobby Orr.
and the goaltending has to be better than I see from RL.
vgk21
let me add that moving Stephenson to the 3rd line WILL be a big boost defensively there, and Roy is also capable on the D end of things. so there is hope for the 3rd line, but ONLY if it is a defensive plus, with some occasional goals chipped in, and not a drag on the top 6.