Recap: The Golden Knights tried to shake off a disappointing loss last night in Arizona by hosting the Colorado Avalanche at T-Mobile Arena. Vegas took the early lead when Chandler Stephenson scored his 14th goal of the season. Jack Eichel picked up another point earning an assist on the play. The Avalanche evened the score 1-1 right after the Golden Knights killed off a penalty. However, Vegas continued to pressure Colorado in their own zone and it paid off. Team leading goal scorer Jonathan Marchessault regained Vegas’ lead 2-1.
The game tightened up in the middle frame as both teams were forced to kill penalties. Laurent Brossoit was strong in net stopping all 12 shots on net.
Colorado tied the game five minutes into the final period and took the lead :26 seconds later. The Golden Knights took several quality chances down the stretch but Avalanche defense and goaltending smothered every rebound.
The Golden Knights record drops to 29-20-4 falling to the Avalanche 3-2. After losing two straight Vegas will get a chance to regroup before they play next on Tuesday night. Puck drop against the San Jose Sharks is set for 7 PM. (Recap by Jason)
Analysis: For 59 minutes of a 60 minute hockey game the Golden Knights were detailed, played with high intensity, and did much of what they want and need to do to beat the Avalanche. But a breakdown in the offensive zone followed by a turnover leading to an Avs rush flipped the game from a VGK win to a loss. It’s a very tough pill to swallow for a team that’s starting to need points in the standings. (Recap by Ken)
Upcoming stories from the Vegas Golden Knights vs. Colorado Avalanche at T-Mobile Arena.
- SinBin.vegas Podcast
Ken’s Three VGK Stars
*** Chandler Stephenson
** Shea Theodore
* Jonathan Marchessault
"It's how it's going for us this year. We fall asleep for a few minutes every night. We're facing some adversity and we better come out of it." -Marchessault
— SinBin.vegas (@SinBinVegas) February 27, 2022
Right now, this version of the Golden Knights is not better than the Colorado Avlanche.
However, there is a lot of positive to take from that game. Periscope coming up later to chat about it.
— SinBin.vegas (@SinBinVegas) February 27, 2022
And just like that, VGK press for offense themselves, turn the puck over at the blue line EXACTLY like they've been trying to get COL to do, and they give one up in transition. Brutal. 3-2 COL
— SinBin.vegas (@SinBinVegas) February 27, 2022
Loved everything about VGK's game tonight aside from one thing.
They still appear to be without answers in the offensive zone for long stretches. If it's not happening in transition, it feels like it has to come from something whacky, which is in many ways unreliable.
— SinBin.vegas (@SinBinVegas) February 27, 2022
Richie-Rich
I honestly believe DeBoering changed the pressure game plan and shifted to a 1-1-3 defensive play-not-to-lose in that third period and it blew right up in their faces. Theodore gave away way too much space as did the other 2 VGK in their own zone. A very easy cross ice pass and a blast by McKinnon!
I am sick of watching this team being jerked around by the Coach and his “process”. Just let them play. The first 40 minutes were absolutely awesome.
Brossoit, once again was solid in net in my opinion.
#1 Star for VGK: Marchy
The team gets high marks for showing that they still have a dangerous offense. Defensively they suck and cannot play 1-1-3 hockey, period.
Oh, and fire SPROTT! They called a time out and the strategy was to take a blast on net from the BLUE LINE? Really?
Emilio
It would work for Brent Burns sometimes lol
Pistol Pete
According to Ken they played excellent 1-1-3 in the NZ the whole game. Obviously you can have a breakdown on it at some point and without seeing the the game yet, that did happen in the third period.
THE hockey GOD
they weren’t in the 1 1 3 when last two goals were scored. Line 3 gave up the tying goal, line 3 has been useless for last month. They were in defensive zone missing assignments. And go ahead goal was scored when VGK was on a 2 1 2 defense against their best line. Both teams best lines were out there, VGK had misfit line out there.
Galdom
They played very well and lost. Colorado only had three shots in the third period and Brossoit only stopped one of them.
LVsc
Kolesar on the PP. that says it all about Spott.
and Calgary, Edm, and LA all won, so the situation just went from bad to worse.
5 losses in the last 6 games.
should be a busy trade deadline
VGK fan
1 win 15 losses when scoring 2 goals if we only had a Vezina winning goalie.
Galdom
So goaltending is still the problem when you have a $90 million payroll and you can only score two goals a game? Ok.
VGK fan in Summerlin
That’s not what he is saying. He is saying that 1 win in 15 losses scoring 2 or less would not be only one win if we had a vezina caliber, or perhaps just a much better goalie. Perhaps that one win would be 5 for example if we had a goalie that wouldn’t give up soft goals regularly. 10 more points right now would be a huge deal.
But many fans would suggest goaltending has definitely been a problem this year, and that’s pretty much unarguable given the stats of the starting goalie. They just can’t make a deep run the goalie doesn’t turn around his performance. Can’t be a top 5 team with a mediocre goalie when the other teams you play have outstanding goal tending.
But now add to the goaltending issue that they are going through a wicked scoring drought.
And add to that their power play, omg what the hell. Mcmanagers go out and get Dadonov who they said will really help the pp, how’s that going? And then one of the best pp guys in the league Eichel who imo looks great can’t fix it.
They can’t go deep in playoffs due to any one of these 3 reasons, and they got 3 they gotta fix in a hurry and 2 of them, the goalie and the pp sure don’t look fixable anytime soon.
THE hockey GOD
they have whole month of march to get better and figure it out
VGK fan
I’m stating facts your giving opinions.
Richie-Rich
I said it earlier, goaltending is an issue and that because of it the VGK would have to score “on average” 4 or more goals to beat the top tier teams and that played out perfectly last night against the Avalanche.
That shit show Friday night? I have no effing idea what that was other than DeBoer taking a shit on the ice.
Pistol Pete
I have not seen the game yet but it would not surprise me if after the first five games that Eichel’s sniping still has some rust on it. Tough loss, good effort. Clearly the upbeat approach I took going in was warranted.
Galdom
The problem is you could play great and still lose to a team like Colorado. That makes the loss to Arizona even more inexcusable.
Hdbiker7851
PPete- how can you even comment when as you stated you haven’t seen the game yet. Just a question, just think about how foolish that is and sounds.
VGK fan in Summerlin
Did Lawless really say in postgame that Jack Eichel led the team in hits last night? Jack Eichel – the guy with the broken neck that you want to protect, that hasn’t played in a year is leading your team in hits???
Says tons about Eichel and his competitiveness and fight, nice job Jack!
But scary thought – what does it say about the rest of the guys on the team? Sheesh is this a fair concern?
Galdom
Depressing
Daryl
Eichel had 4 his although 2 if then were questionable… But you are right, why is he even near the top of hits? That says a lot about this team, and in a bad way. I know the fans itself wasn’t very physical, but that stat is still an issue
Daryl
I called the game 3-2,i just had the wrong team winning
Daryl
I was able to watch bits and pieces of the game and have one question… WHY is Kolesa on the PP next to Eichel??? Which leads to question 1a, why is Spott still here?
John W
Daryl, you stole my thunder….
For the love of God, who thinks that Kolesar should be playing on the power play????
I have only been a serious Hockey Fan for a while but I thought the point of running a PP was to score goals? There is no excuse for having your worst shooter on the ice in that situation.
This team needs a shake up, beginning with Kolesar, Dadanov, and Spott moving on. Get creative b4 the trade deadline and try to get scoring help. Foresberg? Pavelski?
Regardless, losing 4 of 5, the way they lost them, is embarrassing.
Galdom
They obviously like Keegan Kolesar. He was a favorite of head coach Rocky Thompson when he was playing for the Chicago Wolves. He is far more talented then Ryan Reaves in regards to hockey sense and IQ. He showed some promise with the VGK in 2020-21 in the bubble. It’s unusual that a mid level prospect graduates to the NHL without being sent back down to the AHL a few times. I give him props for coming up and taking a job and keeping it. However…. he has regressed a bit this year. Last year he was more physical. He is not a great fighter and I don’t really care about that, Carrier can’t fight either but I think he would be better served modelling his game after Carrier and creating more havoc by crashing the net. A players progression isn’t always lineal, it’s possible he has taken a small step backwards and will be much better next year.
There is no possible explanation or logic for Kolesar to be playing on the power play. None!!! Perhaps this is giving him a bit of an identity crisis. It’s like they are telling him that he is better then he is. I see his career path as a bottom six forward in the mold of a William Carrier. I can guarantee one thing to all the fans that don’t like Kolesar, they will resign him and for now he is in their plans.
THE hockey GOD
@galdom, his dumb penalty along the board cost VGK the game.
The best thing about this game was listening to a real color
analyst in Darren Eliot. I tune out the droning “other guy” whose attitude
I can not stand.
Hdbiker7851
Unfortunately they have to many players in the category- not all cheap ones l might add.
Richie-Rich
In fact, Carrier should be on the PP before Koleslaw.
James
Karlsson is the biggest bust !
Richie-Rich
I would like to see Marchy, Lechy and Rondjberg on line 3.
THE hockey GOD
Where did all the White People go ?
February 26, 2022
From
The Daily Allegiant
The Reason White People Have Disappeared From Commercials Is Totally…
If you were someone from the past and you time-traveled to this time period and watched television, you would think that all white people disappeared.
This is not coming from a place of malice, but an observation.
Now, I am not one to watch a lot of television, to be honest, and when I do I prefer streaming services. Even with streaming services, there are commercials and truthfully, I didn’t even really pay attention since I mute them when they come on.
However, while watching some television with my father, he made the comment that white people in commercials seemed to disappear.
At first, I said to him that I didn’t think so, but my opinion changed.
It is sort of like when you get a new car and then you notice that particular car all over the roads. I started to pay attention and he was correct, as usual.
Now, I am of Southern European descent, so I obviously have no issue seeing other ethnic people on television. That’s not the issue. It’s the erasing of white people/couples in commercials that has me wondering what the heck is going on. The only ones you see are the trailer trash, tatted, white Ho.
If we’re supposed to be a great big, diverse society, why are advertisers erasing a huge chunk of it?
Here is what American Thinker had to say on this topic, and as usual, they nailed it.
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n the United States today, the White population (not including Hispanics) is 57.8%. In real life, Caucasians are still in the majority, but now on TV and the Internet, they are swept under the rug like trash. Blacks comprise 14% of the U.S. population but appear in 80% of commercials. White actors now appear to promote health insurance, gold, loans, and some medicines. Moreover, if a White person appears in a commercial, he/she is usually old, sick, a freak, or at the very least, a white trailer park tat ho appendage to a Black partner. If there’s a doctor on the screen, he’s usually Black, while the patient is usually White. Caucasian young men appear in only 4% of the commercials! If some aliens began to study the population of Planet Earth through our TV commercials they would have a somewhat distorted picture of Americans, to put it mildly.
So why do advertisers ignore the long-standing rules of marketing, and to the detriment of their own financial interests, fill the media space with content that displaces and degrades its biggest market segment? The answer is simple. At the heart of this nonsense is political correctness in a form even an Orwell could not have foreseen. Business executives go out of their way to publicly show their conformity with the universal “diversity” and “critical racial theory” (CRT), demanding that the White man be blamed for all the sins one can imagine. Replacing ancient, long-vanished oppression of Blacks with real oppression of Whites, overcompensating and planting racism-in-reverse.
Ordinary people keep their mouths shut for fear of losing their jobs, not getting a holiday bonus, not getting promoted, or being socially ostracized This is understandable, and I wouldn’t blame them, although I wouldn’t respect them either. But what are people of higher position afraid of — the heads and owners of businesses? What is threatening them? Indeed, nobody is going to drive them out of their positions or take their business, though fear of boycotts can be realistic. They are afraid of various inconveniences: negative articles in the leftist press, social shunning, frivolous lawsuits, loss of state and federal licenses, government contracts, unexpected audits by the IRS, fines for alleged violations of minorities’ rights, and the like small and large troubles.
It’s a fascinating piece and really gets down into the nitty-gritty over how political correctness and social Marxism have rooted themselves in our society. To such a point now, where you wonder if we’ll ever break free.
Richie-Rich
I thought someone said NO MORE POLITICS (((((HAHAHHAHAHA)))))))
the REAL TS..REALLY!
Thg follows his own drummer. We all do, just some of us know when to leave politics out of the HOCKEY discourse.I could respond in soooo many negative ways over politics, but I have more….restraint. My view: to each his own. In the right forum.
the REAL TS..REALLY!
This SINBIN site is here for like-minded fans of the VGK. we’re on the same side, here. But politics will absolutely divide people and, frankly, piss people off.
THE hockey GOD
@real TS , this is the SIN BIN
where
EVERY THING IS ON THE TABLE, a few unsavory topics under the table too.
Tyler Durden
White people are the biggest snowflakes. This piece of shit here being the biggest. GFY
THE hockey GOD
Edmonton bearing down on VGK and Smashville is next in wild card.
Meanwhile in the owner’s box the smelling salts
had limited effectiveness, one fan thought he saw dry heaving.
Heads will roll if they don’t turn this around by mid March. March
is the red line in the sand, the crossing of the Rubicon if you will.
And what the heck is 55 doing on PP, and if he’s on the PP why isn’t he screening the goalie ??
Five man units, including defense, still not generating chemistry. Smith couldn’t open a wide open barn door.
No. 9 still not dominating like ten million dollar man should.
Inconsistency , some one said D men weren’t out. I guess they were missing the FACT that 23 has been out. 14 and 2 have been in and out of lineup, as has 17 and no 53. Remember there are only six d men. That is a lot of in and out of line up for only six man crew. 7 was playing with 14, now 14 is back with 2. Then 7 and 27 were paired together Anyone saying D men weren’t being tossed around isn’t watching the games. Or they go to Gomer and Goober for hockey advice.
THE hockey GOD
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Daryl
You are wrong again. Martinez has been put for a long time and using him as an example is funny. That’s like using Eichel Beth Jr out all year which is being an issue for cohesiveness. Hague was out awhile back and so was Whitecloud. Both have played with and been around each other that to say Dmen being out is a reason for them not gelling is complete BS. It’s an excuse, which you are full of. Try your passive aggressive nonsense somewhere else
THE hockey GOD
only BS here is you and your stupid out of touch of comments
Richie-Rich
It is all about the injuries, injuries, injuries.injuries, injuries, injuries.injuries, injuries, injuries.injuries, injuries, injuries.injuries, injuries, injuries.injuries, injuries, injuries.injuries, injuries, injuries.injuries, injuries, injuries.injuries, injuries, injuries.injuries, injuries, injuries.injuries, injuries, injuries.injuries, injuries, injuries.
Pay no attention to the poor coaching and ineffective defensive strategy.
INJURIES IS THE EXCUSE.
THE hockey GOD
and covid, don’t forget covid , and VGK leading NHL man lost games
and covid.
THE hockey GOD
where’s TIMMAH
TIM?
Galdom
This team CAN’T SCORE!!!!!
Since Christmas….. Misfit line has 15 goals in 60 games. Marchessault has 7 of them.
Dadonov has 2 goals in 20 games since Christmas and he’s not taking advantage of playing with Eichel. That’s one guy I would be actively trying to move so you don’t have to deal with his cap hit next year.
Are people still confused and think that defensive play and goaltending is letting us down right now? It would have been nice if Brossoit what have not let in 2 goals on 3 shots in the third period but he has been as advertised, a half decent back up goalie. One moron said that if Lehner was in net against Phoenix they would’ve lost 7-1 but that’s okay because you can’t fix stupid.
The problem right now is the same problem that ends every playoff run for them and that is lack of scoring. Unless they give up some significant future (1st round picks) to get Timo Meier, Filip Forsberg, J. T. Miller they are going to have to figure this out from within.
Richie-Rich
You didn’t see the shift in defensive strategy at the start of the 3rd period. DeBoer shifted to a 1-1-3 playing not-to-lose. Theodore and Smith were both out of position and clueless as the winning goal was made by McKinnon from the top of the right circle. Smith was nowhere near his man when the pass was easily made to McKinnon. The only Misfit worth keeping right now is Marchy who has a lot of heart and 21 goals.
THE hockey GOD
no body checking
Turk Broda
They can’t score because their offense is predicated on goals off the rush or goals from 60 foot soft wristers from the blueline. That seldom works.
as long as they continue to ignore the need for greasy goals, they will continue to flounder.
They absolutely must have players go to the front of the net, screen the goalie, bother the goalie, create rebounds, tipins, redirects, and general crease chaos. Score GREASY GOALS.
the tying goal last night was a bounce off the pants of Compher who simply went to the net to screen the goalie, and got a lucky deflection. That is how you score the key unexpected goals, the greasy goals.
Meanwhile the Vgk did not even put a man in front of the goalie on the PP….and people wonder why it fails?
If they do not use this strategy, then they are doomed to continue their current path of mediocrity.
Galdom
Broda is 100000000% right.
Why can’t they?
Richie-Rich
Their passing and strategy in the ozone is awful. This is why they rely on stretch passing and blue line shots hoping for a rebound that rarely comes. Opponents know this and surround their goalie like a castle wall.
You’re right, spot on.
THE hockey GOD
GREASY GOALS ?? Are scored by muckers.
VGK don’t have any stinkin’ muckers on their team.
No muckers , no net crashers, no nuttin’.
Daryl
Back to muckers…. And don’t forget the bad ice
Richie-Rich
All night long the Knights looked like they were defending the neutral zone with a 1-3-1 strategy, then up only 1 goal they looked like they changed the strategy to a 1-1-3 defensive blue line strategy. Go back and look and tell me if I am right!
VGK fan
Truth is the problem with this team is goaltending and has been all year!
Last night 3 teams won by scoring 2 goals or less.
VGK has 1 win and 15 losses while scoring 2 goals. Many people have argued about this all year I’m just presenting facts not opinions.
I’ve been a season ticket holder now for 4 years and last night was electric at times.
Now for an opinion this team has a problem they can’t seem to solve you need to be able to win games in the playoffs 2-1 and 1-0. I hope I’m wrong but I can’t see how we start winning games 2-1.
Galdom
Fair.
Blitz
I bet on the AVS at -170, game in Vegas. Kind of sad, but a winner as expected. Vgk played a good game, but only have beaten the sharts in the last 6 games and home is damn near a curse these days. If they played with energy like last night against everyone I would feel better, but they seem to only play the avs and maybe edm like that.
Hdbiker7851
PPete- how can you even comment when as you stated you haven’t seen the game yet. Just a question, just think about how foolish that is and sounds.
Pistol Pete
Going off Ken’s positive tweeting and reading between the lines. I put stock in Ken’s analysis—more than many who post here that is for sure, Mike StG and a few others notwithstanding.
Richie-Rich
Gotta love PP,
He’s the guy who is telling the people on the Titanic that it’s just a small leak! LOLLLLLLLLLLLL
vgk21
Yes, the VGK Titanic passengers are offered a salad with iceberg lettuce.
lol 🙂
Saad
VGK are going the wrong way lol
George L.
Has anyone checked lately to make sure DeBoer knows he’s not coaching the Sharks?
DeBoer is a one trick pony.
Tim
To many questions not enough answers. I’d like to be a fly on the wall what George, Kelly, and Pete must be thinking right now,You have a 33 year old Patch whose basically done, Alex Martinez whose been MIA all year, a star in Mark Stone who may be done, an over weight goalie who’s having a hard time staying healthy right there is 26 million in dead money. The Jack Eichel addition hasn’t been gangbusters and folks the playoffs are becoming a real stretch. If anyone thinks this team or a better term is 18 players not having a clue what the others on his line are doing it’s staring you in the face, The Misfit line when playing together is the exception. Can’t score, can’t win at home, can’t beat bottom feeders. simply can’t compete. I’d say it’s a fair statement no team is afraid to face us. I think they’ve lost faith in DeBoer and back to coaching letting Gallant go was one of a number of big mistakes they’ve made.To laye to cry over all the draft picks we gave away, to late on letting Perron go , to late for picking up Tatar, to late for trading Suzuki, to late for letting Flower go, to late for trading for Lehner. This organization has had a lot of to lates.
Blitz
I think you said it all pretty well Tim. The only thing I would add is, I would like to be a fly on the wall and see what Foley thinks.
THE hockey GOD
Foley is having issues with blood in stool, getting more powerful smelling salts, and dry heaving.
it’s not a pretty sight seeing 90 million flushed down the ole crapper. This is what happens . People from Texas should stick to something they know something about. Like football, tex mex food, and chili (real kind, not kind from Cincinnati)
Blitz
Right and BBQ, freedom, good schools, 2nd amendment, etc
THE hockey GOD
A growing number of countries announced Sunday that they were closing their airspace to Russian planes in response to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.
Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Iceland, Italy, the Netherlands and Spain joined at least a dozen European countries that had made similar announcements.
“There is no room in Dutch airspace for a regime that applies unnecessary and brutal violence,” the infrastructure minister for the Netherlands, Mark Harbers, said on Twitter.
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Denmark’s minister of foreign affairs, Jeppe Kofod, said he would push for Russian aircraft to be banned from the entirety of the European Union’s airspace at a meeting of the bloc’s ministers of foreign affairs Sunday.
Low-cost, Hungary-based airline Wizz Air also said Sunday that it would cancel its flights to Russia for at least a week. The airline said that, because of the sanctions imposed on Russia by the European Union and the United States, it would not be able to access spare parts for its planes in Russia.
No more Russians wizzing on wizz air.
VGK Fan
Thanks THG, for the info! I know this is a hockey site but the people of Ukraine have been in my thoughts and prayers day and night!
THE hockey GOD
@VGK fan
here for you man, hockey is impacted. Lots of Russian players stuck now.
Daryl
There is one person to blame for this… and that isn’t a political statement.
vgk21
Vancouver just beat NY Rangers 5-2 to pull within 4 pts of VGK
current Pacific div standings—
Calgary 68
LA 65
VGK 62
Edm 61
Van 58
SJ 52
Sea 37
PP does not mean Power Play
it means Precarious Playoffs
vgk21
I forgot Anaheim—59
THE hockey GOD
The demand to the IIHF Council calls for, among other things, the immediate exclusion of the Russian and Belarusian ice hockey federations as members of the IIHF.
Blitz
Next 6 games are an easier schedule:
Beatable Teams: SJ, Ottawa, Philadelphia, Buffalo, Anaheim
Tougher: Boston
This is the chance to right the ship. I think any thing less that 4 or 5 wins would be a disappointment on this stretch, because it gets alot harder after these 6 games. The next 8 after are much tougher.
Hurt not hurt, or whatever the excuse, if you don’t have desperation starting now, on this stretch, you might as well get your golf clubs tuned up.
THE hockey GOD
“Righto !”
Felix the Cat
Pistol Pete
The challenge will be playing as well as they did vs. Avs going forward. As Ken pointed out in his Twitter Space, all they need to do is play that well or close to it and they are in the playoffs. And to think they delivered the performance they did on Saturday w/o Pacioretty and Stone. Folks, it’s not over yet. For additional perspective we can go back to season 2 where making the post season pretty much came down to the wire with ARI breathing down our neck.
Pistol Pete
Check this out. Season 2 @ 53 games in. 29-20-4.
Identical record!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018%E2%80%9319_Vegas_Golden_Knights_season
Pistol Pete
32-26-5 was as low as it got (@ game 69).
Pistol Pete
After losing to SJS in OT game 79 to go 42-30-7, they clinched a playoff spot when ARI lost to COL in OT. Both WC’s were to come from the Central.
VGK lost the last two games of the season including one to ARI finishing 43-32-7 a scant 4 games over 500. Definitely a tough season for Gallant and the guys.
Parallels to this season are open to discussion.
Pistol Pete
Certainly a bigger name roster albeit sans two top line forwards. Obviously Eichel has the potential to be a difference maker once he gets his shot and scoring touch back. He’s skating and stick handling is looking excellent.
VGK Fan
Thanks PP for the info. I would say looking at that teams roster from season 2 it was weaker at defensive position and stronger at goalie position than this years roster.
Hopefully we can turn things around.
Pistol Pete
My pleasure VGK Fan. The whole point of posting the season 2 comparison
is a number of posters are painting a gloom and doom scenario, whereas season 2 and season 3 pre-DeBoer are actually very similar W/L at this point of the season. Now that Eichel is playing it’s really too bad Pacioretty and Stone are not available even if it would have meant trading a big piece or two to fit Eichel in. Obviously with LAK, EDM and possibly ANA, the team has to begin winning again. If they keep playing as well as they did Saturday, they’ll make the playoffs. If they don’t catch CGY which may be unlikely they’ll probably play 2nd or 3rd place in the division first round, possibly LAK. They have their work cut out for them, especially without Stone and a 100% Pacioretty.
Daryl
Pacific is actually better now than then, albeit not a whole lot better. You can’t just compare the schedule without looking at the remaining teams
THE hockey GOD
Robin Lehner is no longer listed on injured reserve, according to the NHL Media Site.
Additionally, Logan Thompson isn’t on the active roster. Lehner hasn’t played since Feb. 9 due to an upper-body injury, but both of these moves suggest he could be available to return on Tuesday when Vegas hosts San Jose.
rotoworld via nbcsportswire
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Laurent Brossoit G, Vegas Golden Knights
lb
Laurent Brossoit made 18 saves on 21 shots during Saturday’s 3-2 loss to the Colorado Avalanche.
Brossoit had a rather mediocre night in the crease, especially when considering that the Avalanche only had 21 shots on net. Despite the low offensive production on Colorado’s end, Brossoit still allowed three goals to end his night with a save percentage of .857. This loss drops his record down to 9-6-3. He has now posted three regulation losses and one OT loss in his past four starts. Brossoit’s last win came all the way back on February 8th against the Edmonton Oilers, so it is evident that he is in the midst of a slump at the moment.
VGK played roughly a 59 minute game, it took about one minute of letdown to screw it all down the proverbial toilet and send the owners box into another tailspin of convulsions.
THE hockey GOD
^^^^ from rotoworld, NBC sports wire^^^^ just stating the stats.
Blitz
Alot of kicking LB in the sack with stats in your post, but when Lehner sucks you always defend him by how the goals look. “He let in 5, but only one was his fault yada yada”. Do you think LB’s goals were soft? IMO, neither were. One was a deflection off a body and the other was the defense staring at some boobs in the 2nd row while the best line in hockey made them pay.
Daryl
Exaxtly
Richie-Rich
Well, if they were looking at tits, I forgive them!
Blitz
100%
THE hockey GOD
@blitz excuse me
1- who first called him walrus
2- who coined him wiggy biscuit?
3- who called him out for letting a puck go in off his head
4-= who called him out for holding his stick upside down?
that’s right
THG
get it right next time.
Hey I just reported rotoworld message, don’t shoot the messenger.
Blitz
LOL you are taking my light f-ing with you attack way too strongly. Fact is you have defended RL in the way I mentioned above, many times, always with your own analysis of how he played, not the result/stats. In this case you were copying from elsewhere, I get it, but still stats showed LB had a bad game when in reality the two goals weren’t really on him. I just wanted you to say it.
However my thinking is that if you are a goalie and you let goals in, they are on you. Doesn’t mean the boob watchers didn’t cause the whole dang thang, but you are the last line of defense and need to stop it. The opposite is true too. On almost every goal somebody, non-goalie, should have not allowed the shot to even happen. BUT we are in a world of blame and that’s how it goes. So in this case I blame the FO for bringing in Deboer and Lehner (and LB by proxy) and giving away MAF. Boom! 🙂
Richie-Rich
BLITZ LOWERING THE BOOM!
Cheers, and Shouting from the crowds! You go Blitz!
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rick schoen
After watching Saturday’s game in person, I noticed several things with the Knight’s game that will keep them from goin far in the playoffs, if they make it there.
1. The power play sucks! Nobody wants to get dirty in front of the net. Dadanov was brought in to be that person but he has been MIA.
2. The team is not physical anymore along the boards. Nobody wants to hit. Kolesar is no substitute for Ryan Reeves.
3. Teams use to be afraid of the Knight’s physicality but not anymore.
4. The Knights use to have confidence that if they were down a goal they would get it and win the game. Now they know they can’t come from behind and pull out a win.
5. The team chemistry has been destroyed. Injuries have been a big factor but the front office had a big part of changing the locker room dynamics. It will get even worse when the FO has to make room for the Cap this summer.
6. Defensive lapses are the norm these days not just an occasional occurrence.
7. Let’s face it, the Knights will be luck to make the playoffs. In order to bring in one player and get under the Cap, the FO has screwed this team over.
THE hockey GOD
next few games will make the difference, yes the body language on the bench definitely was not there. The misfit line was sulking after that 21 second lapse. You could visually see it.
Fortunately for hockey, turn arounds are quick, streaks this year are easy to get especially this year- just look at all the winning streaks. Some teams peaking way too early it seems.
Except for Stoner and 23 and 67 team is. Um, supposed to say getting healthier. Trying to set optimist tone here. Trying hard to find positives. Well starting goalie is coming back.
March will be telling.
THE hockey GOD
^^^ source rotoworld, nbc sports wire
Pistol Pete
Continuing along the lines of my season 2 comparison, season 3 becomes a reminder that 3 of VGK’s first 5 seasons looked a lot like this one in terms of W/L at this point of the season ie. a season long struggle.
Gallant was fired after game 49: 24-19-6. Enter DeBoer: through game 53 (comparison to this season): 26-20-7 (this season: 29-20-4).
This season is really nothing new other than the specifics causing the struggles. Other than seasons 1 an 4 it’s been a massive challenge for this team. Welcome to the NHL. At least they have been a whole lot better than SEA looks to be.
Mike StG
Power Play today: David Backes said a couple things that sound eerily familiar…
1) He thinks Vegas has a “cultural” identity problem. And that it’s directly a result of losing Fleury and Reeves. Doesn’t see how the team gets that back, esp with Stone out. He and McKenna thought MAYBE Petro could be the guy in Stone’s absence.
2) He mentioned Chara in a 3rd pair and penalty kill role for some team. I think Chara would shore up Vegas’s D. They have too many young Dmen who want to shoot, and not enough focusing on defense in front of the net.
3) He thinks Getzlaf or Parise could be really good value adds to any team looking to improve their front end. Parise is a guy who will “stand in front of the net and get you greasy goals”.
Sounds like Patch could be out awhile. Looking at the way he flinched and his bodily reaction to his skate getting clipped twice, it could be a core or back injury. Patrick is unlikely to make it healthy through the season and postseason. And now Janmark is out again.
Mike StG
VGK scout attended the STL-PHI game last Tuesday. Who might they be looking at?
Martin Jones?
Claude Giroux?
Keith Yandle?
All on expiring contracts. I’d like either of the last two.
Daryl
At what point does VGK decide to spend money for the future instead of right now. The season isn’t over just yet but do you put all your eggs in one basket to where if it doesn’t work you screw yourself even more in the future?
Blitz
Kind of the question I had too. Do you trade off what little prospects you have now just to make the playoffs and/or any kind of playoff push? They still need to dump before next year. I really just don’t like the spot we are in and we paid alot to get here.
I would go Yandle, just because you know he will be durable enough to make it to the end of the season (joking). I agree with Mike, a stay at home would be good, but this team needs offense more than any thing. One or even two bodies to put with Eichel.
Pistol Pete
Latest from Jesse Granger over at The Athletic:
“Through an optimistic lens, the Golden Knights are near the league average, or slightly above it, in most metrics while dealing with the most injuries in the league. Hockey history is littered with examples of ultra-talented teams that went off the rails due to injuries. Coach Peter DeBoer and his staff deserve a ton of credit for holding things together and keeping the Golden Knights within striking distance through it all.”
“It has been (a challenge),” DeBoer said Monday. “I’ve never been in the top two or three teams for man games lost in a year, and I have a new appreciation for what that’s like. It’s really tough to deal with. It can be devastating. Thankfully for our group, it hasn’t been, and we’re right in the thick of things at the right time of year here.”
Pistol Pete
In speaking with Jesse yesterday at the practice, he concurred with my notion on how bright DeBoer is: “He’s very quick”. Jesse should know from the many press conferences. He also agreed with me on DeBoer’s sense of humor and suggested he is popular with the players, though perhaps not quite as much the “player’s coach” Gallant was.
Daryl
I think Jesse takes the same approach to this team as you do….
Pistol Pete
Bruins crush Kings 7-0 in LA.
Thursday will be another test. Bruins is historically a tough game for the VGK.
Pistol Pete
In 15 games vs. BOS, Eichel has managed 13 pts, just below his career pts/game (.87 vs. .94).
Btw, MacKinnon entered the season 13 pts under a point a game. Now he’s at exactly a point a game. One year older than Eichel.
Galdom
Pacioretty (lower body), Janmark (upper body), and Martinez (facial laceration) have all been ruled out for tomorrow’s game. DeBoer added that neither Pacioretty and Janmark are “close.”
Robin Lehner is expected to start.
Every loss from here on in now will be Robin Lehner‘s fault and nothing to do with them not being able to score.
Richie-Rich
Lehner? I am done talking about this goaltender. He’s average at best and it was a bad roster move that did not fit this team. Whether he wins tomorrow night or not. He’s not the guy and is definitely not worth the salary he is getting.
Daryl
So you are basically saying no loss will be on RL? You sound like another poster who makes excuses for RL at every turn.
Galdom
Ya. They’ve looked good without him. ♂️
Galdom
Vegas has 10 goals in their last 6 games.
Calgary has 26 goals in their last 6 games.
Colorado has 23 goals in their last 6 games.
I guess I’m done talking about him too. Obviously that’s not the problem on this team. Scoring goals is.
Daryl
Scoring goals, especially PP goals is a huge issue and the biggest issue VGK has, but that doesn’t mean goaltw ding can’t be an issue either.
Mike StG
A lot of negativity running through these posts. Too much IMO. I don’t get the “yeah, they’re missing all these elite players, but…”. The old “others need to step up” and “it’s no excuse” lines defy logic. There’s a reason some players are paid a lot more than others, and it’s not because they have incriminating photos of the FO guys. It’s because they are elite players and add value to the team. If they’re NOT playing the team’s performance WILL suffer the loss of their services.
What has happened to this team is pretty extraordinary, and not in a good way. If you can’t comprehend that and want to wallow in agony and point fingers of blame everywhere it’s totally your right to do so. I just don’t see how that enhances your enjoyment of the sport.
Calgary has the 2nd least number of man games lost in the league. No wonder they’re gelling as a unit. Same with Blues, Canes and Panthers, who have all been healthy most of the season. McJesus and Leon have been healthy all year and yet they’re up and down like a yo-yo.
The FO knows the gravity of injuries, so if they don’t see a legitimate chance for elite players to return before the postseason it would make sense for them to make whatever trades they can to give the team it’s best chance. This team is “pot committed “ to win now, so why would they fret about some draft picks or prospects that they might have to give up? Unless your team sucks and gets a high draft lottery pick you’re not likely to end up with a top 6 forward or top pair defenseman anyway.
Daryl
Here’s the problem I have with using the excuse of players being out when it comes to the team gelling. Martinez has been out for a long time so the lines have been switched giving the new pairings a chance to gel with one another. Whitecloud being out two differ t times for a month each, same. If VGK was missing different players every other week then I would agree. We are talking about professional athletes and it should not take them but a couple of games to feel comfortable playing alongside another player. Besides the misfits line, some of these new pairings were old pairings so they aren’t new to each other also. Obviously this is just my opinion.
There are other trams who have lots of missed minutes, like the Pens, who have still played very well.
Now, I also understand that when you are missing top players, like scoring players, there is a chance scoring would be hindered. But at the same time, vhk has replaced some of those injured players with another scorer, Eichel, which, if the team was fully healthy, VGK would still have to of moved a star player anyway
Mike StG
Daryl,
My problem with your position is that Martinez is a way better defenseman than anyone who might replace him on the team. So, Coghlan or Hague is supposed to replace Marty? How so? They’re playing up the lineup and will not be as effective against top lines of opponents. I remember watching Marty angle off McDavid who had several steps on a breakaway a couple years back. That kind of defense (not speed) comes with experience. And his shot from the right circle on the PP is accurate and effective.
On the forward end: so what forward can replace Stone’s offensive playmaking ability or his defensive stick (which has put him on Selke finalist lists)? Who has Max’s laser of a wrist shot? The answer is NO ONE else on the team. Maybe Jack, but he wasn’t supposed to fill in for them, he was brought in to add to their scoring ability. Those elite skills can’t be replaced except by players with similar skills. And so they trade Dadonov and Janmark for cap reasons – so what? Neither of them is lighting it up or have scored a goal in the last 13 or 14 games.
You talk about Whitecloud being out, but he isn’t an elite player. He’s a good defenseman – 2nd or 3rd pairing. So if he’s out then yes there are others who have skills fairly close to his level that can fill in without much of a drop off. That’s not what I was talking about.
Richie-Rich
No matter how you cut it, when Stone, Patches, and Marty returns the front office is going to have to make some tough decisions roster wise. I wonder what the cap is on the below?
61 9 67
19 71 81
28 20 63
21 or 46 10 55
7 & 27
3 & 23
2 & 14
90
39
Daryl
Didn’t McDavid make Petra look foolish?
Anyway, go back and read my post to Galdom on my thoughts on injuries. I’d also point out that defensively they have looked pretty good, it’s the offense that is struggling