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How Much Lost Offense Can Vegas Make Up?

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Since their arrival, Max Pacioretty and Mark Stone have been Vegas’ two statistical heavyweights. The captain is a point per game (0.99) player and his linemate isn’t far behind (0.86), so it’s safe to say their impact will be missed. Without Pacioretty and Stone for an extended amount of time, the Golden Knights will need to find scoring from within to make up for that massive loss of offense.

% Of Team Offense From Pacioretty and Stone

2018-19: (246) VGK Goals Scored
Pacioretty (32) and Stone (5) combined for 11% of team goals

2019-20: (224) VGK Goals Scored
Pacioretty (32) and Stone (21) combined for 25% of team goals

2020-21: (190) VGK Goals Scored
Pacioretty (24) and Stone (21) combined for 24% of team goals

In a full NHL season, Pacioretty and Stone score on average a quarter of Vegas’ goals. While they’re out, other Golden Knights players will have to make up for that lost offense. All fingers will point to the Misfit line but coach Pete DeBoer can’t rely solely on them. Since the inaugural 2017-18 season, the trio of William Karlsson, Jonathan Marchessault, and Reilly Smith have added offense on a nightly basis. Which is a big reason why all three players have scored the most points in franchise history. The Misfit line will need to find ways to add more but Vegas’ coach is already expecting a quarter of his offense to come from them as it is.

Misfit Line Contribution

2017-18: 92 Goals (WK 43, JM 27, RS 22)
Misfits combined for 34.5% of team goals

2018-19: 68 Goals (WK 24, JM 25, RS 19)
Misfits combined for 28% of team goals

2019-20: 64 Goals (WK 15, JM 22, RS 27)
Misfits combined for 28% of team goals

2020-21: 46 Goals (WK 14, JM 18, RS 14)
Misfits combined for 24% of team goals

The construction of the Golden Knights roster is heavily reliant on the top-six and somehow the team will need to replace the missing offense in order to set up for a late playoff run.

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SinBin.vegas Podcast #249: Injury Bug

Without Mark Stone and Max Pacioretty, the Golden Knights are in a tough spot. We chat about the next few weeks, the trap door, and finally dive a bit into the Fleury/Walsh/front office situation. Hosted by Ken Boehlke and Jason Pothier.

  • What happens now?
  • Why Eichel might make sense more now.
  • Can they stay afloat without veering course?
  • Assessing Nolan Patrick
  • Dressing up for Halloween at age 23

And much more…

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Golden Knights In Unfamiliar Position On The Outside Looking In

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It was exactly 1,944 days since Las Vegas was awarded an NHL franchise. They’ve been named the Vegas Golden Knights for 1,824 of them. The team played their first game 1,473 days ago and they’ve been actively competing inside of a regular season for 652 days.

Today stands as just the 95th day in which the Golden Knights have been on the outside of the playoff picture. These past few days have represented just the 27th, 28th, and 29th days in which VGK have ever sat in 7th place, and if the Flames win in Anaheim tonight it’ll be just the 3rd day in 1,944 days of existence that the Golden Knights will be in dead last in the division.

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Yes184*125*131*121*3
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 2017-182018-192019-2020212021-22
1st122*029*851
2nd60111829*1
3rd1100*292
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The numbers are quite astounding when you considered the historic success, or really, failures, of previous NHL expansion teams. Not only have the Golden Knights reached the playoffs every season, they’ve been on the correct side of the playoff cut line for 85.5% of their days in the NHL.

Maybe even more impressive, the Golden Knights have held down the #1 spot in the Pacific or West division for 36% of the 657 regular season days. No other spot accounts for more than 20% and 5th, 6th, 7th, and 8th places combine for just 14.4% of the days.

Yes, that’s right, that means the Golden Knights have been in 1st place more than twice the amount of time they’ve been anywhere in the bottom half of the division.

The latest the Golden Knights have ever been out of the postseason picture was on January 17th, 2020, one day after firing Gerard Gallant (they were in 1st place 11 days earlier).

And Friday was the first day of the first 178 regular season days coached by Pete DeBoer.

The Golden Knights aren’t back in action until Wednesday, which means they’ll have to suffer through at least two more days in an unfamiliar position.

DeBoer Finds Positives As Injuries Mount

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Even before their trip to Los Angeles on Thursday night, the Golden Knights were fighting through a rash of injuries. Now, it appears they’ll be without two thirds of their top line and two of the best players on the roster for a significant period of time.

*Always stay up-to-date with the newest information by checking out out Injury Report*

Mark Stone, Max Pacioretty, Alex Tuch, Nic Roy, Brett Howden, and William Carrier all missed practice today, a practice in which the defensemen actually outnumbered the forwards. (Evgenii Dadonov was absent too, but it was described as a maintenance day).

Obviously, this is not ideal for a team expected to run away with the Pacific Division, but that won’t stop the Golden Knights’ head coach from searching for positives.

The first of which was schedule related. The Golden Knights have a five day break between their second and third games of the season, the second longest break between games this season after the All Star break.

I think the fact that we don’t play until Wednesday will give us the opportunity to get more guys out here. I think everybody likes the idea after a stinker of getting out and playing the next night but the reality of it is we’ve got 3 or 4 guys that wouldn’t have been available tonight or tomorrow night so it’s probably not a bad thing. -DeBoer

He’s also aware though that the worst of the injuries are to the best players of the group. DeBoer is hoping being without Stone and Pacioretty can actually be a good thing for his team.

I told our group this morning that the silver lining of this I’m hoping this might be the best thing to happen to us. You take out guys that you rely on for offense every night. You’ve got to play with detail, you’ve got to have that defensive foundation, you’ve got to be prepared to win 2-1, 3-2. We’ve got to get that back, we haen’t had enough of that. -DeBoer

The team has two more practices before their next game which starts a three game homestand against St. Louis, Edmonton, and the New York Islanders.

Adversity is here, but the Golden Knights appear ready to attack it head on.

Assessing VGK’s Options Without Mark Stone And Max Pacioretty

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The Golden Knights came into this season touting “the deepest forward group in team history.” Due to a rash of injuries, that depth will be put to the test quickly this year and may ultimately determine the fate of the Golden Knights’ fifth season.

With Alex Tuch sidelined until at least January and Mark Stone and Max Pacioretty seemingly joining him with serious injuries, the options are starting to look limited on Pete DeBoer’s lineup choices.

Eventually, he’ll get Nic Roy, William Carrier, and Mattias Janmark back, but even then, it’s challenging to come up with a lineup that will truly strike fear in an opponent.

Here’s the most likely solution Vegas could turn to.

Marchessault-Karlsson-Smith
Janmark-Stephenson-Dadonov
Krebs-Patrick-Kolesar
Carrier-Howden-Roy

The Misfits return to the top of the lineup and will have to carry a massive load both offensively and as the clear best defensive line of the four. The good news with this group is there isn’t a major weak spot. Sure, there would likely be games where certain lines struggle, but as long as the Misfit Line produces, they should be able to survive.

The next option is to swap a Dadonov and Kolesar in the middle-six to try and build an offensive line and a defensive line.

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Twitter Space – October 15th, 2021

As the bad news continues to pour in, this Twitter Space takes a look at the lineup without Stone and Pacioretty, the games ahead, what change this all makes on Eichel, and more.

The Eichel To Vegas Rumor Train Keeps Chugging

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The Jack Eichel to Vegas rumors may have quieted down since training camp but new television partner ESPN continues to stoke the fire. The Worldwide Leader’s NHL play-by-play announcer John Buccigross mentioned Eichel on Tuesday’s opening night broadcast of the Golden Knights and Seattle Kraken. Buccigross doubled down on his comments yesterday on ESPN’s The Point.

I think Pat Brisson is going to make this happen. I just look at Vegas with Alex Tuch who’s injured, he was a big prospect, he makes some good money. They need to match up because of their cap. I just see Vegas. -John Buccigross, ESPN’s The Point

The Cawlidge Hockey enthusiast discussed the current status of the Sabres disgruntled star with NHL reporter Emily Kaplan. From the sounds of it, Buffalo may have come close to an agreement with one of the handful of suitors.

Behind the scenes the NHL and the NHLPA have intervened, they don’t like this stalemate. Jack Eichel is now sharing his medical records with teams, and I was told as of Thursday there was serious optimism that a trade was imminent. Everyone felt really good about it, they thought it was going to happen. Then on Friday things went quiet.-Emily Kaplan, ESPN NHL reporter

There are several reasons to believe that the Golden Knights are one of the teams still in on the Jack Eichel sweepstakes. Vegas’ front office is habitually aggressive and has reportedly been interested in almost every available stud since 2018. The biggest motivation to acquire Eichel is his unique talent and ability to elevate Vegas enough to lift the Stanley Cup.

There are five teams still in on Jack Eichel. Those are teams that believe they can fit his $10M salary into their cap situation, maybe that means moving some contracts or whatever. All of those teams have agreed Jack Eichel will get the disc replacement surgery he wants. -Kaplan, ESPN

Adding the 24-year-old to the current Golden Knights roster would reasonably make them the favorite to win the Cup for several years, something Kaplan has mentioned on the show in the past.

Sportsnet’s Elliotte Friedman and Jeff Marek also discussed Vegas’ interest in Eichel on their latest episode of 32 Thoughts podcast. Friedman found it difficult to believe the Golden Knights could wiggle enough cap room to make a deal with Buffalo. Of course, unexpected injuries could create a narrow path.

We all sit here and wonder, what are they going to do down the middle? Buffalo has said unless Krebs is in the deal we’re not really interested in doing this. Vegas is a threat, they’re a Stanley Cup champion contender. -Elliotte Friedman, 32 Thoughts Podcast

Back to ESPN, Buccigross agrees with Friedman that Eichel addresses Vegas’ weakest position.

That’s what they need Barry, to plug that 26-year-old guy right in the middle of that lineup. They don’t want too young and they don’t want to old because they have enough 30-year-olds as it is. -Buccigross, ESPN

Legendary flowmaster and hockey analyst Barry Melrose chimed in to give his take on the swirling Eichel to Vegas tittle-tattle. In the end, Melrose might be making the most sense.

They can’t have everybody. -Barry Melrose, ESPN NHL Analyst

It’s hard anticipating what happens in the foreseeable future but consider the Golden Knights one of the five teams in the mix for Eichel. It will be tough to maneuver but ESPN would like it to happen.

LOS ANGELES KINGS 6 VEGAS GOLDEN KNIGHTS 2 (1-1-0 2 PTS)

Recap:  The Golden Knights and Kings faced off for their first of four matchups this season. Vegas struck first nine minutes into the opening period after Shea Theodore wristed his first goal of the season from the blue line. Los Angeles tied the game off a rebound and took the lead on a screened shot past goaltender Robin Lehner. After 20 minutes the Kings lead 2-1.

Los Angeles added to their lead three minutes into the middle frame. Newly signed Philip Danault stung the Golden Knights once again with his first goal as a King. Captain Anze Kopitar stretched LA’s lead to 4-1 with his second of the game.

Vegas coach Pete DeBoer replaced Lehner with backup Laurent Brossoit for the final period but it wouldn’t matter. Drew Doughty scored the Kings second power play goal of the night to end any shred of hope of a Vegas comeback.

The Golden Knights record drops to 1-1-0 after their 6-2 defeat in LA. Vegas will have a few days off to prepare for their next opponent on Wednesday night. Puck drop against the St. Louis Blues is scheduled for 7PM. (Recap by Jason)

Analysis: The Golden Knights did not look good from the drop of the puck on this night and despite taking a lead (thanks to a major goalie mishap) it never got better. The 2nd period could go down as one of the worst in a long time for the Golden Knights as they allowed two goals and lost Mark Stone to what looks like a serious injury. DeBoer pulled Lehner for the 3rd, and Brossoit allowed a goal on the very first shot he saw. If it could go wrong, it did. (Recap by Ken)


Upcoming stories from the Vegas Golden Knights vs. Los Angeles Kings game at Staples Center.

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Value Of Golden Knights Franchise Up 78% From Purchase Price, Ranked 12th In NHL

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On June 22nd, 2016 the NHL approved expansion to Las Vegas and The Creator agreed to pay $500 million to buy the league’s 31st franchise. A little more than five years later, that investment has nearly doubled.

According to Sportico.com, the Vegas Golden Knights are currently valued at $890 million, a 78% increase in value from the purchase price.

That number puts the Golden Knights in the top half of the league, coming in at #12, directly behind the Vancouver Canucks ($975m), Detroit Red Wings ($1.025b), and Edmonton Oilers ($1.16b). The Toronto Maple Leafs ($2b) lead the league followed by the New York Rangers ($1.87b) and Montreal Canadiens ($1.58b).

The last time a national outlet put out valuations like this was back in December of 2019. At that time, Forbes had the Golden Knights at just $580 million, in 13th place.

There’s been a pandemic since now and then, and yet somehow Sportico has the team worth over $300 million more than before.

Sportico projects the Golden Knights to make $186 million in revenue this year, which is surprisingly only good enough for 16th place in the NHL. Last year Vegas came in with $89 million during the challenging 2020-21 COVID-affected season. That was 4th in the league, likely boosted by the ability to fill their building with fans much earlier than most other teams.

The total $890 million number is made up of the team value which is listed at $835 million and “team-related businesses and real estate” which is valued at $56 million.

The NHL’s newest team, the Seattle Kraken, come in two spots behind the Golden Knights at $860 million, but their team value is actually higher than VGK, also listed at $860 million.

Nonetheless, any investment that goes up 78% in five years would be considered a good one. Maybe, just maybe, this Foley guy knows what he’s doing with his money.

**The full feature article from Sportico is behind a paywall, but their infographic is free and it’s awesome.**

Goalie Interference – Episode 1

On the first episode of our new weekly show featuring former VGK TV analyst and NHL goalie Mike McKenna, we go over the season opener against the Kraken, discuss the Golden Knights’ frustrations over Morgan Geekie’s celebration, look into the cap gymnastics, and much more. As always, the show airs live at 7 PM every Wednesday.

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